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Move on from abortion? Not on your life!
vanity | April 20, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/20/2007 9:51:11 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

I hate to say it again, but guess it has to be said:

Free Republic is a conservative site.

As a conservative site, we are pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty, pro-America.

Like-minded folks know immediately what this means and why we will never "move on from abortion" as Rudy Giuliani and his supporters ask us to do.

Think about it.

You might as well be asking us to deny God. To deny the Creator that gave us life and liberty. To give up our children. To surrender our country to the left. To give up our freedom. To give up our faith and our belief in God's Word.

Why insult us like this?

IMHO, the root difference between conservatism and liberalism IS our belief in God. For the most part, we conservatives defend our Christian/Judeo founding and our God-centered traditional American society and family values system, and the belief that our most fundamental rights were bestowed upon us by our Creator. Rights given by man can be taken by man. Rights bestowed by God are unalienable rights.

Liberals, on the other hand, especially the Marxist/socialist liberal leadership and the big leftist feminist, homosexualist, abortionist, anti-religion organizations deny God exists. They deny our Christian/Judeo heritage, work overtime to destroy our traditional family values, and seek to destroy our freedoms, including, and especially our right to the free exercise of religion.

Our deeply rooted conservative belief in God and refusal to roll over for feminism, abortionism, homosexualism, socialism, etc., is the only thing stopping the left from completely overwhelming us with their godless, socialist perversions and completely wiping out our traditional Christian/Judeo God-centered free society.

If we cave-in to the left by nominating a supporter of abortion rights, gay rights, gun control, illegal aliens, etc., as our candidate for the presidency and de facto leader of the Republican party, then we will have destroyed our own pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty movement and will have destroyed all of our prior pro-life, pro family, pro-liberty work. The Republican party will have made itself a joke. It'll be left standing for nothing. Worse, it'll be left standing with NARAL, NOW, the ACLU, and every other feminist/homosexualist Marxist/socialist communist group.

Surrender to the abortionists? Not on your life!

This is Free Republic. We ARE the dissent! We fight for life and liberty! We fight for our traditional American family values! We proudly and diligently defend our Christian/Judeo heritage, our country, our constitution, and our right to be free and to freely worship our God!

IMHO, those of you who cannot or will not understand these simple truths will never understand what FR is all about, what the pro-life movement is all about, what conservatism is all about, or even what freedom is all about.


TOPICS: Announcements; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bitchslaprudy; elections; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; nosurrender; rudy; rudyonabortion; stoprudy2008
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To: jwalsh07
LOL, try a junior high school biology book. I've seen obtuse but you take the cake.

Though "liberty4babykilling4ever" has been banned, my response is in post 450. I think you'll like it, FRiend.

461 posted on 04/23/2007 9:46:19 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Mr. Silverback

OK, glad you support my resolve to vote for Rudy during the general election if it ever comes to that (which I don’t think it will). That’s all I ever said I’d do on this thread.


462 posted on 04/23/2007 9:46:49 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: KevinDavis
So people who don’t believe in certain things should be banned from here???

If the things they don't believe in are FR's founding principles, then they should at least tread lightly. If they believe the primary way to relate to the Founders' legacy is by viewing through the lens of thier worst moral failures, they should be shown the door.

463 posted on 04/23/2007 9:50:08 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
(Abortion, BTW, does not fit neatly into this framework, because there is a debate of when the fetus becomes a human individual with the rights of an infant. Even if you think the answer is obvious, the question is presently being debated.)

*snip*

Now, my personal belief, is that happens sometime between first brain activity (at about 40 days) and viability (sometime around 21 weeks).

*snip*

If I were an atheist, I would be pro-life.

Your statements taken together make it clear that, like most pro-choicers, you desire to codify your subjective, unprovable religious beliefs in law and public policy, while accusing others of doing the same. 150 years ago, people like you were wringing your hands over whether or not Negroes really qualified as "human."

464 posted on 04/23/2007 9:53:29 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
These people cannot be allowed to return to power.

I agrre. I just want people to stop fooling themselves into believeing that running a northeastern lib against a northeastern lib is not only good strategy, but our only viable option.

465 posted on 04/23/2007 9:56:09 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: mkjessup
And indeed, it came to pass that an ignorant little troll who shall be remembered as 'lib4all' was in fact, banned as predicted by several Freepers.

I prefer" "liberty4babykilling". But I like yours.

466 posted on 04/23/2007 10:00:12 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: KevinDavis
So people who don’t believe in certain things should be banned from here???

People can believe whatever they want. The site founder, however, has said that he will not tolerate people using the forum to promote a candidate who is almost completely at odds with the site's mission.

467 posted on 04/23/2007 10:04:10 AM PDT by kevkrom (A vote for Guiliani is a vote to kill conservatism.)
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To: TAdams8591

From what I understood, Franklin messed around between when he met his wife and when he married her years later. People hear “illegitimate son” and assume that means that he cheated.


468 posted on 04/23/2007 10:04:27 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Good afternoon, I’m thinking THIS thread was just the flight training simulation for the BIG thread now approaching 5000 posts, LOL


469 posted on 04/23/2007 10:05:54 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: shuckmaster
Well we certainly can't allow difference of opinion on this forum. Let's ban him for speaking his mind.

Yes, yes, indeed, treating the Founders like a bunch of scumbags in order to promote ripping small children limb from limb is exactly what we should have on a conservative forum! Hear hear!

It's...

BRILLIANT!!

470 posted on 04/23/2007 10:08:19 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: kevkrom
Absolutely wrong and insane, but consistent.

Truth.

471 posted on 04/23/2007 10:12:22 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Sloth

Excellent post. See my 450 if you would...apparently, CeltJew thought the God of Israel was a flat earther...:-)


472 posted on 04/23/2007 10:14:13 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: mkjessup

Heh-heh! I’ve barely strated with that one. I might just lurk.


473 posted on 04/23/2007 10:15:17 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Mr. Silverback

That quote wasn’t mine.


474 posted on 04/23/2007 10:16:11 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Mr. Silverback

Yes, I saw that. Good response, though it’s almost embarrassing to have to prove something as silly as “humans are human.”


475 posted on 04/23/2007 10:27:08 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: FreeReign

Sorry, meant to post to both of you.


476 posted on 04/23/2007 10:30:33 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Thanks.


477 posted on 04/23/2007 10:33:25 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Sloth

Thanks!


478 posted on 04/23/2007 10:35:21 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: EveningStar

Please explain to me why the left can say pretty much anything it wants and it’s called either freedom of expression or freedom of speech. Big okay for them, they say.

But, how dare anyone — anyone at all — disagree with any of the liberals and we’re called “haters” and “warmongers.”

They want the two-party system as long as it’s Liberals on one side and Democrats on the other?

What kind of inbred debate would that be?


479 posted on 04/23/2007 11:01:29 AM PDT by janereinheimer
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To: Truthsearcher

Thanks for clarifying my mistake.


480 posted on 04/23/2007 11:02:14 AM PDT by janereinheimer
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