VT Killer Ruled Mentally Ill by Court; Let Go After Hospital Visit (Virginia Tech)

ABC News Online ^ | 4/18/07 | Ned Potter and David Schoetz

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Great post, Laz. That means his background check should have been declined.

Hear that, ATF?

[KarlInOhio]

Does the background check for a handgun purchase find this out, or does it only check for a criminal background? Do they just take the buyer's word on the Crazy/Not Crazy question?

[Kevmo]

That kind of puts the policy of no-gun campus in a strange light, doesn’t it? A guy with an illegally obtained gun was mowing down students whose RKBA was taken from them in the name of safety. Not a wise policy.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

I hope that firearms dealer who was bragging about how thorough his background check was gets his license revoked.

It's not the dealer's fault it's the Fed's fault.

[JimSEA]

"It is very difficult to predict when what someone perceives as stalking, is stalking."

It has been my experience that "mental health professionals" are not too much better off than those they pretend to "help". While being well intentioned, they too frequently are manipulated by those they treat, often for drugs and often to be released. They are taught to be "nonjudgmental" and we all know how much that attitude has helped society in general. Just my two-bits.

[Redleg Duke]

Hey, before you criticize the firearms dealer, think about this. He calls in the information for the background check. If Cho isn't in the system, what is supposed to do, refuse to sell to him?

The same liberal pukes who want to take away our guns are the ones defending the rights of the criminally insane to not be profiled or have their information in any data base.

[skikvt]

They should blame the ACLU: The Supreme Court ruling of "O'Connor v. Donaldson" made it very difficult to commit mentally ill and even very dangerous individuals. Cho Seung-Hui should have been in a mental institution, not in College.

Rather than exercise gun control, I think we need to exercise some lunatic control.

[ExTexasRedhead]

The ACLU and Liberals feel sorry for these wackos. After all, they have rights just like Liberals think terrorists have rights.

[livius]

If we tallied up all the people killed by nuts loosed on society since the end of involuntary committments in the 1970s (he’s just seeing a different reality, man, I mean, like, don’t you know???), we’d be shocked and horrified at what this policy has cost our country.

[2nd amendment mama]

I hope that firearms dealer who was bragging about how thorough his background check was gets his license revoked.

It wasn't the dealer's fault....it was the State of VA's fault. The dealer ran the required background check and got the okay to sell Cho the gun! The state of VA and the Feds (NICS) dropped the ball.

[finnman69]

yeah, but whos’ job is it to ensure the court order shows up on the background check?

[familyop]

"I'll trust the eyewitnesses' sense of his tone and intent over yours at this point in time."

Don't beat around the bush. Let's make that more clear. You would trust the words of certain students and an instructor at the People's Republic of Boulder over mine. That makes your spoken perspective a little more clear for us.

I've worked for public schools. Thanks in part to the new sensitivity game, they're (as are universities) the nearest thing we have to nut-houses now.

[Stayfree]

So he broke the law in getting a gun, he broke the law taking it on campus, he broke the law shooting people and he broke the law murdering people....we don’t need any laws, we might offend somebody, especially if they are from another country................but let’s make it the death penalty if you are a Christian with a gun in your closet!

[Ellesu]

Shep Smith interviewed a victim in the hospital. I think I heard wrong. Victim said Cho smelled bad, he stunk so bad and that’s what he remembered first. Anyone else hear this? Correct me if I heard wrong.

[panthermom]

Obviously someone dropped the ball and it wasn’t the arms dealer. Somebody is responsible for putting information in the data base, that obviously didn’t happen. How do you blame the gun dealer, he followed the rules, the info wasn’t there.

[Lazamataz]

I imagine the court should report these orders to NCIC.

[ArtyFO]

Why doesn’t the court post these adjudications on a public board so that gun sellers can determine if the nut they are selling a gun to is certifiable?

[familyop]

And you probably should have replied in the following thread instead of this one.

Student Arrested Over Va. Tech Remarks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819529/posts

[Stayfree]

I think we need to exercise some lunatic control.

You mean vote all the liberals out of office....what a great idea!!!!

FLUSH LIBERALISM.COM

[theBuckwheat]

So now we have a third reason why this mass murder should not have taken place.

1) The Orlando Sentinel reports that Cho set fire to a dorm room. It appears that VT officials did not expel Cho;

2) Neither did VT officials press charges. An felony conviction for arson would have, under federal law, prevented the background check from allowing the sale of the firearms to proceed;

3) Federal law now requires that anyone institutionalized for mental problems report that on his BATFE application form. It is a felony to not properly report this. Further, the federal government has been accessing records of such people to use in denying their ability to pass the background check.

And the libs say we need more laws to prevent some future mass murder. Sounds like snake oil. If the laws we have don’t stop mass murder, then obviously we don’t have enough law. Strangely (or predictably) most of the new laws always seek to restrict lawful ownership and use far more than they seek to address mass murderers.