Posted on 04/18/2007 1:29:40 PM PDT by harwood
Just heard anchorette report this on pMSNBC
He was soooo columbine...
Little difference between Cho and DU poster...the hatred for the rich, etc.
No clue...
He even mentioned those two boys by name.
I don’t, the message I see is it’s America’s fault. This is way past the garden variety mass murderer. The attack was well planned, likely choreographed by the prior weeks bomb threats to test response of the police, and he left the message of what he wanted to be seen as after he was done.
This is much more than mass murder ... He was sending America a political message, just like other terrorists do, no way to deny it.
Warned before and took credit? Please provide a legitimate source for this claim. Note that a legitimate source does not include a rambling on some conspiracy theorist website.
Yeah but, it was a town house ... I'm still waiting to hear if he had his own 'rice racer' (white acura with spoiler and aftermarket front end)
He was giving them a shout out...why not, he was on the same drugs.
I don’t know of any “classic spree” killers who left behind a video tape. I do know that it is a classic islamic suicide killer’s MO
You said — “So, in that way at least, it is like the jihadists....”
Well, I pointed out carefully, in another post yesterday that there is a big difference between what we see with certified nutjobs here in the U.S. and dedicated jihadis who have a religion and a philosophy that they follow with absolute dedication. There is a world of difference.
If you confuse the two, then you make the job of fighting the jihadis that much more difficult and you will not understand them, in order to fight them and beat them. They are not *nutjobs* but rather are following a dedicated religious and governmental philosophy, the same way those who were Nazis did and who followed the Emperor in Japan and those who towed the Communist line in Russia.
I suppose that people might called Nazis and Emperor worshipers and Communists and Jihadis all nutjobs — but that does not gain any understanding (in order to *know your enemy*) and is a great diservice.
Regards,
Star Traveler
I didn’t see it in a thread - it was the last quote from the madman in the first package NBC News played tonight. They broke up the videos. It was the last one in the first section, before they moved on to other news.
Is this really what he said/wrote???
<< You said — “And it is just now being reported on FoxNews that the return address on the package to NBC was: “Ismail Ax” !” >>
<< Yep, and that’s been reported as (1) a physics formula, (2) a Turkish psychiatrist that deal with mental issues that he had, (3) some Islam cryptic message, (4) a game “handle” for the games he played online. >>
It was “A. Ishmael” on the label.
Your reasoning is extremely weak on this point.
Because people have offered various, mostly far-fetched hypotheses as to what the significance of the reference to “Ismail/Ishmael” might be (which designation was indisputably of importance to this a-hole), your logical conclusion from that is that one should therefore exclude out of hand, even though we know relatively little about this guy, any possibility that he was influenced by islamism? How does that make any sense?
Where did you find that??
Pray for W adn VA Tech
LOL! I know exactly what you mean. Just go hang out on Little River Turnpike in Annandale.
You said — “Thanks, I hadn’t seen that last bit of information.... Perhaps a voluntary committal should be grounds for a denial as well...”
It looks like that information that I gave you before has *morphed* in the news and they’re changing the story now. So, it’s getting too confusing to sort this one out — just yet. I wouldn’t settle on that one just yet...
Regards,
Star Traveler
Killer/murderer is good enough for me.
Eerily reminiscent. Social retard lashes out at his perceived persecutors.
I really do hope this puts the jihadi nonsense to bed.
Did anybody notice that in some of his video where he is really ranting and raving angry, he several times, shows hints of smiles.
I think this guy was just plain bonkers nuts and thought it was fun to act out a real life play (since his creative writing was horrendously poor in quality).
Any allusions of his to class, religion, islamic symbolism like possibly Ismail - is just incoherent ramblings. He had no mission, no cause, no real fight, he was likely just mad and wanted to kill himself and take others with him just for mad kicks.
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