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Heads Must Roll At Virginia Tech ...(assumed domestic violence ???)
Peace and Freedom ^ | April 17, 2007 | John E. Carey

Posted on 04/17/2007 5:21:32 AM PDT by IrishMike

The entire nation will now collectively mourn one of the great tragedies one can endure: the death of so many of our children.

But a detailed analysis of the facts will also be ongoing. There are many questions from all observers.

It just seems to me, when law enforcement finds two dead bodies on a sleepy university campus in the 7 A.M. hour: they immediately should slam the “Red Alert” button. Yesterday there were some lame remarks about getting out an email (two hours late) and that there wasn’t time to get the word to both lock down the campus and stop the influx of tens of thousands of commuters.

They don’t have radio and TV in Blacksburg, Virginia? If at 7 A.M. a tornado was announced heading for that campus, what would have happen? How about a snowstorm? We had high winds in Washington D.C. this week and the schools were closed three hours early. It was on every radio and TV station in seconds. With that huge force of law enforcement, a good police commander could have closed every road into that campus in no time.

They got radios, cars and flashing lights, don’t they?

Did anyone notice that a bunch of those law enforcement offers were, ahem, chubby?

Law enforcement at Virginia Tech didn’t save one life. They didn’t waste one bullet doing it either. Somebody should be ashamed: law enforcement didn’t fire a shot. The only shooter on that campus got tired after all the mayhem he made.

If my kids name was killed in the classroom after 9 A.M. I am one angry parent.

When is the last time law enforcement found two dead students, murdered students, on that campus during the 7 A.M. hour?

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TOPICS: Editorial; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: shooting; vatech; virginia; virginiatech
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To: muawiyah
Look, we don't want this repeated, and your lackadaisical attitude toward this situation is nearly criminal in its scope.

I'm not willing to blame other people for the insanity of one man. Maybe something could have been done to prevent this, but maybe not. It's hardly the right time to be throwing blame at everyone. You can reassess this thing in a few months. But right now everyone wants to blame the cops, the university, the president of the university and everyone but the shooter.

The blood on the ground hasn't dried and people want to see other people's heads roll. Maybe people should just shut up.

41 posted on 04/17/2007 6:04:17 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
The University administration actually lobbied the General Assembly this year to stop legislation that would allow CCW on campus.

They are part of the problem. They created conditions that enabled this nutball to kill people.

Rational and moral people take actions to keep honest people honest and the criminals out.

42 posted on 04/17/2007 6:06:04 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: laotzu
"What indication did they have these two weren't murdered the night before?"

Police have to do some rather unpleasant, physical time-of-death tests that are fairly accurate.


43 posted on 04/17/2007 6:06:31 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: napscoordinator
I tell you that I just love these folks who are so perfect and knows exactly what to do in these situations.

It makes me sick; I couldn't even post on FR yesterday because of it; the bodies weren't even cold before our "experts" were ragging on everybody EXCEPT the shooter.

44 posted on 04/17/2007 6:06:52 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: IrishMike

Yes, they assumed. They had to because they had only what had already happened to go by. They obviously could not use hindsight at that point.

Let’s put the blame where it belongs — on the shooter(s).


45 posted on 04/17/2007 6:06:55 AM PDT by alnick
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To: eyedigress

They should have used the Amber Alert System to notify the 16,000 commuter students not to come to the campus. Campus security should have secured the dorms as well. I’m also guessing the shooter was well aware that he would face no armed resistance due the the much publicized bill banning employees and students from keeping their legal guns on campus.

“Tell me why I don’t like Mondays”.


46 posted on 04/17/2007 6:08:58 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: P-Marlowe
http://www.bov.vt.edu/members.php is a public website that provides information necessary to contact members of the Board of Visitors for Virginia Tech.

You tell them, not me, what a great job they did. I simply disagree with their beliefs.

47 posted on 04/17/2007 6:10:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: IrishMike

Yes, domestic violence assumption did get many more young people killed. That’s a horrible price to pay for an anti-family policy. But feminists and other left/liberal people will hate you for talking publicly about it.


48 posted on 04/17/2007 6:11:32 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: IrishMike

...the domestic violence assumption, even.


49 posted on 04/17/2007 6:12:15 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: IrishMike

Don’t ridicule these cops they did everything they could. Plus if you have ever been in college do you know how many college students actually wake up before or after 7 am? The majority of them probably had not even woke up before 9 am or 10 am. I used to live in a dorm on my college campus and every morning things didn’t start going on until after 9 am just about every morning.


50 posted on 04/17/2007 6:13:17 AM PDT by migjig (Nobody has more guts than our soldiers!)
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To: familyop
Police have to do some rather unpleasant, physical time-of-death tests that are fairly accurate

How long do these tests take?

Should they hit the "Red Alert" button before, or after these tests yield results?

51 posted on 04/17/2007 6:13:18 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: IrishMike

I’m still inclined to hold the shooter responsible for what happened. This article illustrates how litigious and void of any logic our society has become, especially in the media.


52 posted on 04/17/2007 6:13:39 AM PDT by KoRn (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: IrishMike

Don’t ridicule these cops they did everything they could. Plus if you have ever been in college do you know how many college students actually wake up before or after 7 am? The majority of them probably had not even woke up before 9 am or 10 am. I used to live in a dorm on my college campus and every morning things didn’t start going on until after 9 am just about every morning.


53 posted on 04/17/2007 6:13:59 AM PDT by migjig (Nobody has more guts than our soldiers!)
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To: IrishMike
....the death of so many of our children.

CHILDREN? This article lost me with that comment. Usual MSM twisting the facts.

54 posted on 04/17/2007 6:15:30 AM PDT by Pit1
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To: massgopguy
That might have helped, unless they locked down the gunman with a bunch of students.

I don't have the information, but I would like to know if a shooting victim was EVER found on a college campus and they put out alerts and locked down the entire university.

55 posted on 04/17/2007 6:16:12 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: laotzu
" How long do these tests take?"

...a few minutes at the site for preliminary but usually accurate-enough TOD. A rectal thermometer is one of the sophisticated tools involved. ...told you that it's unpleasant.

Should they hit the "Red Alert" button before, or after these tests yield results?"

That's actually not very relevant to the on-site part of the TOD investigation. They should not have assumed that the violence was over due to the usual domestic violence assumption.
56 posted on 04/17/2007 6:19:27 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: migjig

Sounds like my daughters college campus hours,
graduated last year, University of Albany.


57 posted on 04/17/2007 6:24:21 AM PDT by IrishMike ( What happens when aliens breed with sheep ? - Democrats)
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To: muawiyah
Even the campus cops had no guns.

I made sure to check out the officer on duty at my son's middle school this morning. And he was armed.

58 posted on 04/17/2007 6:28:05 AM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: familyop
That's actually not very relevant to the on-site part of the TOD investigation

It is relevant to my criticism of this insipid, and insulting article.

59 posted on 04/17/2007 6:29:03 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: muawiyah

nasmuch as I’m a Virginia taxpayer, with a kid in a Virginia university, and an Infantry veteran, I’m sure I’m paying for this, having my family put at risk by the jerkoffs who run the university systems in this state, and that that I know something about setting up a perimeter and defending it.

It’s really not necessary for me to run the world to figure out how to start kicking some a$$ and taking names eh.
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Great!!

How would you have secured VT?


60 posted on 04/17/2007 6:41:50 AM PDT by woodbutcher
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