One comment from a Rudy critic is especially good:
—Doesn't Giuliani's comment that "our party" needs to "get beyond issues like" abortion sound a LOT like Howard Dean's 2004 call for Southerners to stop focusing on "God, guns and gays?" Sounds like Giuliani and Dean are talking from the same script here. Different words, same message: "Please set aside your silly antiquated morality and religious beliefs and focus on the REAL issues."Maybe Rudy is the "Howard Dean That Could." The Rudybots seem to believe it.
The party is either pro life and liberty or it’s not. If the answer is not, it’s going to be a whole lot smaller. And weaker. And permanently out of power.
YIKES. If he keeps this up, he can kiss the nomination away... Are consevatives against something, or are they for something? I, for one, am for life. I am also for the Constitution. Goodness knows what Rudy is for besides himself.
If Rudy is the Republican nominee, Hillary (or whoever the Dems pick) will be President.
Rudy is already dividing the Republican base, and he would divide us even more once he moves left of his current position during the general election cycle.
This is not the leader that our nation needs. We need a leader that will make THE OTHER SIDE compromise.
As he is on abortion, so shall he be on the 2nd amendment and illegal aliens.
NO thanks RUDI. You need an political abortion.
Well then, we are the party for the protection of innocent life. Now what party is known for being against that?
Well, it’s pretty apparent that Rudy wants to take the GOP to the left with him.
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“Des Moines Register”
Was gonna post that myself. copyright problems
Wrong! No one of sound moral conscience can come to the conclusion that dismembering unborn children and sucking their remains into a sink is a viable, permissable, or protected option. Murder is evil. Those who condone are equally evil.
My view of it is I hate abortion. I think abortion is wrong. To someone who I cared about or cared to talk to me about it and wanted my advice, the advice I would give them is not to do it and to have adoption as an option to it.
This is precisely what every other liberal pro-abortion politician says about abortion.
When I was the Mayor adoptions went way up, abortions went down but ultimately I respect that that’s somebody else’s decision and that people of conscience can make that decision either way and you can’t put them in jail for it. (applause)
Giuliani has yet to provide a description of the specific program or policy during his administration that he believes is responsible for this oft-stated spin. Nationwide, during the time that Giuliani was mayor of NYC, abortion statistics changed. Giuliani is clearly taking credit for something he DID NOT DO. Further, he is condemning millions of Republicans - to include icons like Ronald Reagan - when he denounces their pro-life stance as simply trying to put women in jail for excercising a simple "decision". He is grossly mischaracterizing the pro-life position in a manner that is identical to the most strident pro-abortion Democrats. His statement here disgusts me beyond what I can express in mere words. He has further entrenched himself as a radical liberal or the worst sort with this kind of statement. And the people who applauded what he said should be ashamed of themselves - brainless sheep suckered by Giuliani's well-rehearsed sophistry.
This man is no conservative and he is the epitomy of all that a conservative reviles. If that isn't enough for you, what is?
Someone tell Rudy I’d rather proudly stand against evil than appease it.
Rudy, it isn’t just this ONE issue- well, maybe for some. But its your whole offering of alleged stances that just do not jive with the R behind your name.
If it is not the taking of a human life, why hate it?
If it is the taking of a human life, why permit it in a civilized society?
Drop dead, Rudy.
Rudy says he hates abortion, but apparently not enough to be against it. How can one actively support something that they believe is wrong? I’m just not buying Rudy’s claim that he hates abortion.
I think it’s absolutely brilliant the way we destroy our own candidates.
We don’t need no stinkin’ dimocrats - we’ll do it ourselves!
This way we can avoid the humiliation of having leftists pointing out reasons that voters don’t want to vote for our candidates - we will preempt them and point out all their weaknesses ourselves - real or imagined! Even if the perceived weakness is not an area that a President would have any influence in.
And, to add to the deliciousness of the situation, this means that we really never have to a choice to make. By the time any of our candidates get to the convention, we will have destroyed any shred of credibility or impetus they might have had going.
Get ready for Hillary in 2008. Barf, Gag, Barf!
(And, for the record, I don’t particularly like Rudy. Unless he’s the choice against Mrs. clintoon.)
Rudy doesn’t need the American Spectator or anyone else to tell him how to finesse the abortion issue. He put the issue out there in the worst possible light, including his support for public funding. He took a 5 point hit in the polls, and now the public has absorbed the information. Giuliani is back to where he was before he took the hit, and never relinquished his front-runner status.
Republican activists are going to find out that abortion is a back-burner issue for a majority of party voters. His abortion position actually helps him, because it increases his viability in the general election, and his support in the primary is driven by that.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/