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Rudy must be stopped
World Net Daily ^ | 4/16/07 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 04/16/2007 9:09:11 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky

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To: Ol' Sparky

Isn’t this the guy who runs the same article about suitcase nukes every 6 months or so as ‘news?’


21 posted on 04/16/2007 9:22:30 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Ol' Sparky

When it comes down to a vote, Giuliani will get the votes of people who would vote for anyone but Hillary/Obama.


22 posted on 04/16/2007 9:23:01 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Ol' Sparky
Peasants With Pitchforks Respond!

If you look at Rudy's stances, and decide you honestly disagree with him and don't want to vote for him, I respect you.

However, if you're screaming "All folks who think like me will never vote for any baby-killing, gun-grabbing, homo-loving cross-dressing liberal scumbag and if you disagree you're a blankety-blank-blank liberal scumbag who doesn't belong here" -- you're a joke.

If you believe you've been given the power to determine who can and who can not be "conservatives", you're a joke.

If you've not been here long enough to remember the Buchannanites, then trust me. The 'peasants with pitchforks' angry flame style of political debate is a failure every time it's tried.

23 posted on 04/16/2007 9:25:37 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: 1rudeboy
Is anybody really surprised by this? Apparently he does the same thing every election cycle.
Joseph Farah: Why I can't vote for Bush
"under no circumstances, will I allow myself to vote for George W. Bush for president of the United States."

24 posted on 04/16/2007 9:25:42 AM PDT by ecurbh (Giuliani 2008 - http://www.rudygforamerica.com/)
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To: Reagan Man
You liberal trolls belong over at DU with the other leftwingers, not on this conservative forum.

Garbage.

Most of the goals are the same however election scenarios change and there are conservatives who are a pragmatic bunch and agree that winning is goal #1 in trying to accomplish things.

Who can win. That's the debate.

The big difference between us is the level of priority that folks place on the abortion issue. I frankly think it's overrated, however we'll be finding out shortly.

25 posted on 04/16/2007 9:26:03 AM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: Reagan Man
I would vote for any candidate, with a chance of winning, who opposed any Democrat. So, I’m not a conservative? How about this, anybody who would piss away his/her vote on a nobody because the Republican candidate doesn’t agree with them 100 percent not only is not a TRUE conservative, they’re not entirely sane. Being a TRUE conservative doesn’t mean having to be stupid every time you don’t get your way.
26 posted on 04/16/2007 9:28:06 AM PDT by mngalt (In a sane world the answer to energy shortages would be more electricity and oil.)
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To: zarf
I don’t ordinarily believe in voting 3rd party to send a message. Generally, I’m of the opinion that the Republican candidate is so much better than the Dumbocrat candidate, that I’ll have to settle for half a loaf.

I did this in the case of GHWB & Bob Dole, & GWN, although I had, and have, significant disagreements with all three.

In the case of Rudy, though, I see very little daylight between his positions and those of the Dems. So, why should I vote for him? Let the Dems install these awful policies and take the blame. Let the Rs understand that THEY WILL NOT WIN ELECTIONS BY DRIFTING LEFT.

Give America a choice.

27 posted on 04/16/2007 9:28:29 AM PDT by chesley ("Socialism" - The devil made them do it..)
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To: dc-zoo

If you are correct.. add Madame President to the lingo. Anyone republican can beat Hillary, except Rudy.


28 posted on 04/16/2007 9:28:30 AM PDT by pnut22
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To: Ol' Sparky

Aren’t there always people that feel, or actually are, disenfrachised, in every election?


29 posted on 04/16/2007 9:28:37 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Under no circumstances will I cast a vote for Rudy Giuliani as president

Agreed.

30 posted on 04/16/2007 9:29:22 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: ecurbh
Is anybody really surprised by this?

Nope.

It *is* that political chum bucket, WND.

31 posted on 04/16/2007 9:29:33 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: NRPM

You are spot on. All of these purists do not ever put forth in their posturing, who will fight the WOT most effectively. If the answer to that topic was Hillary, then I would vote for her. I want to win (kill or convert all the terrorists) the war on terror. End of argument!


32 posted on 04/16/2007 9:30:37 AM PDT by noname07718
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To: Ol' Sparky
Okay, look, I don't want to throw gasoline on the fire, and I don't want to debate what people think about Joe Farrah. However, and I am serious, why are people so stuck on Rudy? People can argue around the margins a bit, that's fine, but Rudy's record is pretty well documented and it does demonstrate that he is a RINO. Therefore, I am honestly at a loss as to why so many seem to blindly support the guy.

Is it like a sporting match where you simply do whatever to insure the home team wins? Do you really like the guy's positions. Or, is it that upon being challenged with the facts people are just digging their heels in because they have a "never surrender" type of attitude.

"I don't get it."

33 posted on 04/16/2007 9:30:59 AM PDT by Obadiah (Republicans - the battered wives of Democrats.)
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To: dc-zoo

“Rudy will be the nominee. Get used to it.”


I won’t vote for Rudy. Get used to it.


34 posted on 04/16/2007 9:31:21 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Reagan Man

“The real loons are the idiots who run around promoting liberals like Rudy Giuliani to be the GOP nominee.”

Well said.
I’m still trying to decipher the logic in: “We’ve got to work to elect a liberal candidate so we don’t have a liberal president.
Here’s one in its native habitat, calling to its fellow `neo-conservatives’. http://www.holoweb.com/cannon/commons.htm


35 posted on 04/16/2007 9:32:07 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: chesley
I'll do everything as a voter to prevent the Soros/MoveOn jackels from having a direct line to the WH....rest assured they will if Shrill is elected.

On top of that, the sacrifice of those who died in Iraq will have been in vain if Bitch takes charge.

I don't believe either of these will occur if Rudy is elected. That ENOUGH for me.

36 posted on 04/16/2007 9:32:21 AM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: pnut22

” Anyone republican can beat Hillary, except Rudy.”

cONGRATULATIONS! yOU WIN THE “SILLIEST POST OF THE DAY” award.


37 posted on 04/16/2007 9:33:51 AM PDT by noname07718
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To: mngalt
It’s not that Rudy doesn’t agree with me 100%, it’s that he agrees with me only about 10-15%. I can get that from a Democrat.

Policies, not personalities and not parties, are what I am interested in. If the Rs & Ds are so close that it doesn’t matter who wins, then I won’t vote for either.

However, I will watch Rudy and see if he “grows” any on the campaign trail.

Meantime, Tancredo will get my vote if he’s running by the time I get the chance, or Thompson. I’d even vote for McCain over the Dem candidate. Reluctantly, of course. Rudy is the only one I would have to search my conscience for before I could pull the lever for him.

So, if say, 15% of the conservatives feel like me, is Rudy actually ‘electable’? Maybe we need to make a stand to make a point to our fearless ‘leaders’: DO NOT RUN LEFT!!!

38 posted on 04/16/2007 9:35:52 AM PDT by chesley ("Socialism" - The devil made them do it..)
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To: Registered

Thanks for reposting my remarks.

Its always good to see the truth being spread about Free Republic.

Now go take a nap.


39 posted on 04/16/2007 9:37:07 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Obadiah
However, and I am serious, why are people so stuck on Rudy? People can argue around the margins a bit, that's fine, but Rudy's record is pretty well documented and it does demonstrate that he is a RINO.

If you consider yourself someone able to define who gets to be a "real conservtive" or a "real republican", maybe you won't care for what I'm going to say.

Rudy is a 'conservative'. He's socially liberal, politically conservative.

A very large, perhaps majority, segment of conservatives are socially L, politically C.

Therefore, supporting Rudy is a no-brainer.

40 posted on 04/16/2007 9:37:19 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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