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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: DBrow

Did I just heatr that the President has ordered flags to half staff?


4,621 posted on 04/17/2007 8:20:40 AM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan

Israeli Professor Murdered As He Saved Students at Virigina Tech Shootings
Judeoscope &Jerusalem Post ^ | 4/17/07

Posted on 04/17/2007 7:03:09 AM PDT by meg88

Israeli professor murdered as he saved students at Vriginia Tech shootings Source: Jerusalem Post

As Jews worldwide honored on Monday the memory of those who were murdered in the Holocaust, a 75-year-old survivor sacrificed his life to save his students in Monday’s shooting at Virginia Tech college that left 32 dead and over two dozen wounded.

Professor Liviu Librescu, 76, threw himself in front of the shooter, who had attempted to enter his classroom. The Israeli mechanics and engineering lecturer was shot to death, “but all the students lived - because of him,” Virginia Tech student Asael Arad - also an Israeli - told Army Radio.

Several of Librescu’s other students sent e-mails to his wife, Marlena, telling of how he blocked the gunman’s way and saved their lives, said the son, Joe.

“My father blocked the doorway with his body and asked the students to flee,” Joe Librescu said in a telephone interview from his home outside of Tel Aviv. “Students started opening windows and jumping out.”

Liviu Librescu, was respected in his field, his son said.

“His work was his life in a sense,” said Joe. “That was a good place for him to practice his research.”

The couple immigrated to Israel from Romania in 1978 and then moved to Virginia in 1986 for his sabbatical, but had stayed since then, Joe told Army Radio.


4,622 posted on 04/17/2007 8:20:58 AM PDT by meg88
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To: Halls
They stand outside with their guns drawn and appear to be afraid to enter the building. That is what I saw from that cell phone video. Now I admit I don’t know the full story, nor if they were able to get into the building, or if other cops were already in the building. But if the cops took their time trying to get into a building where clearly people were being shot one after the other I have a problem.

So do I. Remember, that was what happened at Columbine. The teachers and students tried to handle business while the the SWAT(?) team stayed outside crouching behind car doors.

4,623 posted on 04/17/2007 8:21:40 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Ah don't feeeeel no ways taihrd.)
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To: jdm
Hey, you’re the one who made the claim that the police tried to open the doors. I have yet to see that information anywhere else.

I saw a television interview with a student yesterday that described the police as having difficulty with the ground floor exterior doors of the building.

They used those battering ram tools to bust open the door...they closed it again.

They could not enter the 2nd floor where all the carnage was taking place because it was those interior hall doors to the staircase that were chained from the inside.

That's why some of the victims were shot in the stairwell...because they were trapped on the floor.

4,624 posted on 04/17/2007 8:21:42 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: JFC

Of course.

I bet she is insinuating that “he doesn’t care about blacks” and I guess the victims at VT were all white.

Funny about gun control. Yes, it’s pretty loose in VA, but the campus didn’t allow any. Lot of help that did, keeping the killer and his guns out!


4,625 posted on 04/17/2007 8:21:47 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Good points.

One ASSUMES that there was NO complicit stooge . . . around in or out of any . . . organized forces groups . . . to help on that score.

But it’s . . . more than a little uncommon for a suicide guy to blow his brains out from the back, isn’t it?


4,626 posted on 04/17/2007 8:22:27 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: meg88

Now we know why he survived Hitler.


4,627 posted on 04/17/2007 8:22:49 AM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: Rockpile

The guys I expressed this to gave me the usual “you’re crazy” responses but I’ve noticed in the intervening years that there are a lot more folks who are dubious of the official party line accounts nowadays.
= = =

It was the flakiest, fringiest groups that earliest and most accurately identified Hitler and what he would do.

But, hey, it’s OK for them to keep casting me as a wildly kooky nut case. There’s a lot more comfort and margin of safety in that role.


4,628 posted on 04/17/2007 8:24:18 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: MinuteGal
FNC’s coverage is horrible. All emotion and little facts. I have been watching from the top of the hour and no walk through or time line. These guys have no sense of geography - none. Katherine Herridge gave the story on the perp; then said she’s summarize and just repeated. She is so disjointed on every story.

The love to put on these eye-witnesses that are can't speak.

These guys could not organize a sock draw. I’ll watch Britt tonight and he will make some sense, but the rest are horrible.

Greta is the WORST reporter on the planet. She asks these binary questions. We watch her for the hoot. Her panels are hysterical. Our favorite is the former DC cop now “attorney”. He is ridiculous, but very funny.

4,629 posted on 04/17/2007 8:25:00 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: freeperfromnj
This is a national tradegy

This is part of that. Only a part.

4,630 posted on 04/17/2007 8:25:05 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; mmichaels1970; meg88
I should have known that since it's in the article that I read and linked.

Some Fox reporter earlier said something about a German prof, and my aging brain got confused. :)

My apologies.

OILine Rebel.......the one who said he was not a hero is a very confused, heart-hardened soul. He is one to be pitied.

4,631 posted on 04/17/2007 8:26:15 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: ohioWfan

Morning OWF—

It has been covered this morning by both FOX, and CNN. ((Hugs)).


4,632 posted on 04/17/2007 8:26:19 AM PDT by sissyjane (Fred!!)
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To: DBrow
That could be fantasy from a “journalist” trying to stir the pot.

It could be incorrect, but the gun shop owner wrote that the ATF told him the serial number was filed off the 9mm. And the gun shop owner looks pretty credible.

4,633 posted on 04/17/2007 8:26:21 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: DBrow

The guy had receipts for the gun purchases in the bottom of his backpack. They didn’t need the serial numbers.


4,634 posted on 04/17/2007 8:26:34 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: AmericanInTokyo

THANKS MUCH.

It’s interesting—the contradictions.

Their organized crime/mob stuff all over Asia can make a given target more than unsafe, doomed. But somehow, that’s excused as reasonable and normal. LOL.

Nevertheless, collectivist cultures do have more forces toward unity etc.—at least on the surface but also to some degree genuinely.


4,635 posted on 04/17/2007 8:27:01 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: silentknight

Everyone has a cell phone in Blacksburg. It is the hub of the internet community. All the big symposiums are there.


4,636 posted on 04/17/2007 8:27:45 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: sissyjane

I heard it on Fox........but CNN?? Well, wonders never cease.....


4,637 posted on 04/17/2007 8:28:05 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

Chinese Muslims are . . . first . . . Muslim.


4,638 posted on 04/17/2007 8:28:22 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Trust but Verify
Have you ever tried to enter a double metal door on any building...for example a movie theater?

They only open from the interior. THAT'S the type of door that hindered the police from entering that door.

Once they did break through..they encountered the chained doors to the 2nd floor.

4,639 posted on 04/17/2007 8:29:29 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: advance_copy

Wellllll, yuck.

I guess there’s some consolation he didn’t live to see the coming holocaust—but to be offed by the birth pangs of it is bad enough.


4,640 posted on 04/17/2007 8:29:35 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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