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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: silentknight
ABC news reported there may have been a shootout at an off campus apartment.

Police confirm the doors in Norris where chained

1,981 posted on 04/16/2007 1:54:51 PM PDT by meg88
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To: A Citizen Reporter

How long do ballistics tests take...won’t they eventually be able to connect the two through ballistics...or have I been watching too much CSI, LOL?


1,982 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:02 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Velveeta; All

I am, but working away from the computer.
I was on the internet in the wee hours looking
at other stuff.

All pings welcome.

Getting ready for a BBQ with the computer on.

I would appreciate any updates on TM re:

The shooter(s) IDs - confirmed.

The shooting locations - all (on and maybe off campus).

Anything else of interest.

THANKS AS ALWAYS Velveeta.


1,983 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:08 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Windcatcher

the first rule of media relations for press conferences - if you can’t answer any of the obvious questions, DON’T HAVE THE PRESS CONFERENCE.


1,984 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:08 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

They said they would not release the victims name until tomorrow, for first of kin to all be notified.


1,985 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:17 PM PDT by JFC
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To: newagepublius

I just got in from school, and turned on Fox. I was stunned at what they were talking about.


1,986 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:17 PM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Loyolas Mattman

For all they know, this was an AQ act. They have to gather evidence. Their procedures demand it.


1,987 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:23 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: Idaho Whacko
The rules of civilization should NOT be dumbed down for the biggest morons. THAT is a hallmark of socialist thought.

In the olden times, the idea used to be that civilization was only for the elite. The rest of society was the rabble and wasn't really considered part of civilization. Nowadays our culture revolves around the masses instead of an aristocracy. Dumbing down is sadly to be expected.
1,988 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:26 PM PDT by Cyclopean Squid (A Day Late and a Dollar Short)
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To: Deo volente
Reporter. How many murder sites are you talking about....in the one building?

Police Officer: I dont know I consider it all one big murder scene.

1,989 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:30 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: retrokitten
Rumors fly like crazy.

1,981 rumors at last count.

1,991 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:33 PM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: silentknight

Well, I was simply reporting what the people at the press conference said. Go complain to them!


1,992 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:33 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: vamoose; TonyInOhio
"Wars that started/ended in April include: ... Super Tornado Outbreak (April 3-4, 1974)"
How does one "start" a tornado? Karl Rove? Perhaps he dabbled in tornadoes prior to perfecting the hurricane machine.

Weather Control

1,993 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:37 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: WisdaGr8st

Do you really believe this is punishment for the people of Virgina because of the way some of them voted???

WHAT NONSENSE!!!!


1,994 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:55 PM PDT by Dances With No One
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To: LexHoskin

PRayers up for all the families involved.
How very sad.


1,995 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:59 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Click my name and see my baby. Thank you sooo much Brad's Gramma)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
"You are absolutely ridiculous."

Whatever chief.

"As I said, spare me the crapola about “discrimination” and comparing it to racism."

You don't get spared, because you deliberately characterized all college students as irresponsible and not trustworthy enough to possess, or exercise CCW for defensive purposes. You claim to know it all and support those claims with arbitrary anecdotal evidence.

"It’s total BS, because EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO REACHED 18 - has been in that “group”!!! Give me a break, BLACKS??? Get off it. What an absolutely absurd, stupid comparison."

The comparison is right on target. Blacks were demonized as irresponsible, just as you're demonizing college students as being too irresponsible to own weapons. That was the justification for passing laws against them and it's the same justification you're spewing now. It's just as bogus now as it was then. It is however the same emotionally motivated bigotry applied to a group, to deny them their rights.

"I’ve experienced being in college and those were my impressions, as well as that it’s even worse now. Too bad."

Irrational bigotry, nothing less.

"How’s your opinion on Moslems? Are you 1 of the very few here so good as to never malign them"

Isalm defines itself, and any conclusions I've made regarding islam is based on the facts of the beliefs held by the group. Note that islam is not defined by skin color, age, national origin, grade, ect... It is defined by the beliefs held. Also, the word malign would never apply, because good and evil are defined by an absolute moral code. HTe word malign applies to calling somehting evil, when it is not in reality.

"Go crawl back in a hole, please. "

You who call for denying the rights of a large group of your fellow Americans, because of your own bigoted opinions ought to be the own crawling into your hole. I'm certainly not going to.

"At least learn to have a reasonable discussion rather than “firing off half-cocked”."

Yeah, whatever. I don't see bigoted claims and anecdotal justifications as reasonable.

1,996 posted on 04/16/2007 1:55:59 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: jdm

This guy doesn’t know anything!

The reporters are wasting their time.


1,997 posted on 04/16/2007 1:56:06 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: VRWCmember

Your 541. Cops saying “no arrests.” I saw the guy on all fours in custody. Is he now non-existent?


1,998 posted on 04/16/2007 1:56:20 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: Cyclopean Squid
Speech and assembly have been shown to have limits. So too should gun ownership.

Yes, but these are things like "time, place, and manner" restrictions, because if I walk around with a bullhorn at 2:30 in the morning, I might bother people. In such a situation, the very act of speech itself is harmful to those around me, so we have some--very few--regulations.

Not true with carrying a weapon. Unlike speech, the very act of carrying a weapon--in and of itself--is harmless to those around me, and, as such, should not be subject to restriction.

If you want to pass laws that give severe penalties to those who use a weapon in the commission of a crime, fine. But don't restrict my right to carry a weapon, which, by itself, is completely harmless.

1,999 posted on 04/16/2007 1:56:22 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: longtermmemmory
I think this settles the debate that unarmed citizens are dead citizens.

Sadly, Libs think that a law banning guns would mean that guns would cease to exist.

2,000 posted on 04/16/2007 1:56:50 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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