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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: killjoy

Not necessarily. One would be to prevent further blood loss - the other can happen even with minimal blood loss.


1,201 posted on 04/16/2007 11:21:08 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: DCPatriot

Heard on Fox that some clips may hold 17 rounds. This guy must have been very well trained to get off that many rounds, reload quickly, and not get jumped. Plus he lock the doors with chains. He was prepared.


1,203 posted on 04/16/2007 11:21:37 AM PDT by myprecious
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To: Txsleuth

I know that if I lost it and snapped and started to hurt innocents with the gun that I bought for protection,the rational part of me that was left, would be grateful to anyone who would shoot me and stop me before I hurt someone.

It makes no sense to disarm the public, none.

We should be handing out guns and knives on planes instead of taking them away. Stupid.


1,204 posted on 04/16/2007 11:21:40 AM PDT by HonestConservative (As long as there is Free Republic there is hope for Liberty)
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To: fatima
That’s the August 2006 shooter.

Not sure if there’s a way to verify it’s his myspace site or some impostor.

He says his sign is Aquarius on myspace, so I went to Wikipedia to try to find the month he was born, but one isn’t listed, so I couldn’t do a match.

1,205 posted on 04/16/2007 11:21:49 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Aquinasfan
A "gun-free zone" is an invitation to the devil.


Inviting the Devil


1,206 posted on 04/16/2007 11:21:56 AM PDT by XR7
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To: DCPatriot

I have after market 17 round mags for my Ruger.


1,207 posted on 04/16/2007 11:22:31 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: Centurion2000

THis is a victim. It has been confirmed that the shooter (if only one) was Asian American


1,208 posted on 04/16/2007 11:22:32 AM PDT by shoedog
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To: Centurion2000; All

CNN is hinting at two shooters.


1,209 posted on 04/16/2007 11:22:41 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: NittanyLion
Seems to me that the initial shooting at 7AM was done as a decoy.

Get every available LEO on the opposite side of the campus....walk into a dorm 1 mile away...chain the doors (premeditation) and start killing people like fish in a barrel

1,210 posted on 04/16/2007 11:22:42 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: SubGeniusX

ANd before September 11th, flying airplanes into buildings didn’t fit the profile either. A profile is nothing more than a history of how a group has acted in the past. To claim that “islamic terrorists” in general have a specific profile is ridiculous as there are so many groups covered by the phrase “islamic terrorists”.

If my memory serves me correct, in the past years on college campuses we have had one or two islamic terrorists run people over with cars and one try to blow-up a football game (OK v. K. State). I don’t think either of these fit a profile for islamic terror up until that point either, but if they happen again, people will instantly associate those acts with Islamic terror.

But, at what point does a profile emerge? Do we need ten killers? Eleven? What about the DC snipers combined with the Utah shooter? How about groups in Iraq kidnapping and executing people trying to join Iraqi police forces?

It seems that the only common thread to islam is massive killing and if Allah is particularly kind to the murderers, then the killings are in the bloodiest manner possible. That is the profile of islamic terror.


1,211 posted on 04/16/2007 11:22:53 AM PDT by bone52 (Fight Terrorists.... Blow up the Eiffel Tower)
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To: Bosco

Sudden Jihad Syndrome?


1,212 posted on 04/16/2007 11:23:10 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: tcrlaf

“Asian” is the BBC’s code for Muslim.


1,213 posted on 04/16/2007 11:23:34 AM PDT by sportutegrl (This thread is useless without pix.)
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To: Dianna

Brittany & Ben Sammon


1,214 posted on 04/16/2007 11:23:51 AM PDT by TwoSue
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To: myprecious

Two handguns with 30 round magazines would not have had to reload, especially if you consider the 9mm’s deserved reputation for overpenetration.


1,215 posted on 04/16/2007 11:24:01 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: oceanview
...that isn’t focused on being anti-Rudy....

Not "anti-Rudy," anti-gun-control and anti-abortion.

If you don't think this event is going to be politicized, you're rather naive.

1,216 posted on 04/16/2007 11:24:04 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: petitfour
The shooter in Pearl, MS, was thwarted by the assistant principal who had a weapon in his vehicle that was parked off campus.

You're correct about that one -- I hadn't recalled it. Perhaps there are some more out there that I cannot recall.

FWIW, the Columbine shootings occurred despite the fact that the armed security guard at the school had actually exchanged shots with Harris and/or Klebold. Seeing as how they planned to die anyway, the presence of armed officers seems not to have deterred them.

Bottom line is that it's probably not reasonable to ascribe normal human responses to people who are out to kill as many as possible before they commit suicide.

1,217 posted on 04/16/2007 11:24:15 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: dfwgator

after every one of these incidents, the same thing is said - “oh they will take security more seriously now”. it never happens. people don’t want to be “incovenienced” by security measures, the campus security forces consist of $10 an hour “rent-a-cops”, etc, etc.


1,218 posted on 04/16/2007 11:24:17 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: DCPatriot

decoy - good thought


1,219 posted on 04/16/2007 11:24:28 AM PDT by mommya
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To: eleni121
Terrorism = Islam.

So therefore Terrorism never took place in N. Ireland because the bombers were not Muslim?

What about the Olympic Park Bombing in 1996?

Was Eric Robert Rudolph a terrorist?

The shooter(s) at VA Tech no matter their faith are Terrorists.

1,220 posted on 04/16/2007 11:24:29 AM PDT by trumandogz
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