Posted on 04/15/2007 1:23:15 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
A GHOST from the cold war has returned to haunt the CIA. A book to be published this month by a veteran American spy is raising startling new questions about Yuri Nosenko, the Russian defector who played a key part in the inquiry into the assassination of President John F Kennedy.
Conspiracy theorists have long been obsessed with Nosenko’s supposed role as the KGB officer who handled the Moscow file of Lee Harvey Oswald, JFK’s assassin, who had lived for three years in the Soviet Union.
After Nosenko’s defection in 1964 — a few months after Kennedy was shot in Dallas — he assured the CIA that the KGB had never tried to recruit Oswald, who was regarded as “too unstable” to be of use.
It was a crucial moment in the cold war, an apparent intelligence breakthrough that may have prevented a nuclear conflict had America concluded that Moscow was behind the assassination. But what if Nosenko was a fraud?
That tantalising possibility is examined in Spy Wars: Moles, Mysteries, and Deadly Games, by Tennent H Bagley, the former CIA case officer who was initially in charge of Nosenko’s defection.
James Angleton, chief of the CIA’s counter-intelligence unit, went to his grave in 1987 suspecting that Nosenko was a double agent whose main task was to distract the agency from a KGB mole. “The book goes a long way toward rehabilitating [the idea] that Angleton was right in calling him a KGB plant,” said Ron Rosenbaum, a New York journalist who spoke to Bagley earlier this year.
Bagley, who now lives in Brussels, argues that the KGB’s aim was to steer the CIA away from realising that the Russians had recruited an American agent in Moscow in 1949 and perhaps two others later. The book raises the possibility that a KGB mole may have worked at the CIA during the cold war.
Nosenko is believed to be now living under an assumed name somewhere in America. He never gave evidence to the Warren Commission investigating the JFK assassination, but largely as a result of his assurances Washington never took seriously the idea that the KGB plotted to murder Kennedy.
If Nosenko was never who he claimed to be, it is not only Angleton’s reputation that may have to be revised. Bagley’s book seems certain to inflame America’s most formidable group of conspiracy theorists: those who are convinced that Oswald did not act alone.
If Oswald acted alone he would he would not have been killed.
They had to kill him to keep him quiet. - tom
“steer the CIA away from realising that the Russians had recruited an American agent in Moscow in 1949 and perhaps two others later. The book raises the possibility that a KGB mole may have worked at the CIA during the cold war”
Only 4? Hah - the State Dept was full of em.
That Noseko was or was not a spy has no impact on the conspiracy. And there WAS a conspiracy. It was not hundreds, or even dozens of men; it was Lyndon Johnson, some attorneys, J. Edgar Hoover, and some Mafia gunmen originally hired by the government to kill Castro.
In mid summer 1963 LBJ was headed for prison; even he could not get out of this one: Bobby Baker, Billy Sol Estes, and others were talking. LBJ was going down.
There was one way and one way only he could save himself and that’s if he were President. JFK has already made a decision to replace Johnson with NC Governor Terry Sanford.
None of this is new information; it’s just information our ever-vigilant MSM won’t look into. They might find that they’ve been coving for a lie for over forty years.
All you have to do is buy fat head Ted a few drinks and he’ll tell you the whole story!
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My understanding is they definitely had a mole, which resulted in every CIA operative in Russia being killed, yet the CIA failed to uncover the mole. I thought that new CIA film mentioned this fact. I've been told the CIA has never been populated by bright lights.
As Mr. Kennedy sat in the rocker in my office, his head resting on its back he placed his left leg across his right knee. He rocked slightly as he talked. In a slow pensive voice he said to me, 'You know if I am re-elected in sixty-four, I am going to spend more and more time toward making government service an honorable career. I would like to tailor the executive and legislative branches of government so that they can keep up with the tremendous strides and progress being made in other fields.' 'I am going to advocate changing some of the outmoded rules and regulations in the Congress, such as the seniority rule. To do this I will need as a running mate in sixty-four a man who believes as I do.' Mrs. Lincoln went on to write "I was fascinated by this conversation and wrote it down verbatim in my diary. Now I asked, 'Who is your choice as a running-mate?' 'He looked straight ahead, and without hesitating he replied, 'at this time I am thinking about Governor Terry Sanford of North Carolina. But it will not be Lyndon.
It could be true. But this reads funny. Maybe she's just a bad writer or transcriber, but it doesn't sound right. Sort of like the famous story about Woodrow Wilson that turned out not to be true.
I don't know why Evelyn Lincoln would have lied, but if I were JFK, you can bet I'd want Johnson, to use a famous Johnsonism: "inside the tent p*****g out," rather than "outside p*****g in."
You ever read Barr McClellan’s book Blood, Money & Power: How LBJ Killed JFK?
No doubt. That's why it was a "long shot." If he had backers, they would have been surprised that he pulled it off. However, given the number of times this has been looked into, to accept a second gunman requires accepting a truly massive conspiracy at many levels.
All bull. Ruth Payne got Lee Harvey Oswald his job at the Depository, and it is impossible to believe she is a part of any conspiracy. That one fact negates any conspiracy.
It was purely coincidence that he had a job on the motorcade path. He was simply a nutcake with delusions of grandeur and an opportunity.
Kennedy was killed by Traficante and Marcello, and Johnny Roselli......in order to get RFK off of their backs. They knew if they killed RFK, JFK would come after them that much harder. so they had to change the administration from the top.
They knew the government wouldn’t come after them because of their(the Mobs)intimate involvement in helping the Kennedy brothers in their effort to send Castro to his dirt nap. In the midst of the Cold War they knew that secret had to be kept before all others.
Oswald was a patsy;the Warren Commission a ruse.
All of this is laid out in impressive detail in the book Ultimate Sacrifice.
It’s a must read if you’re into this topic.
http://ultimatesacrificethebook.com/authors
I probably can do the same results with a scoped pistol. It doesn’t take much to do what Oswald did.
The first shot starts the clock and is a miss.
The second shot is a hit at 44 yards.
The third shot is a hit at 88 yards.
The loading of the first shot and the next two shots were timed at 8.3 seconds.
Easy and a Boy Scout can do it. It’s not like shooting at 600 yards with iron sights now is it?
Bullsh!t and you probably think robot planes took down the twin towers.
Go ahead and explain in detail the trajectories, shooters the number of rounds and where they came from. I’ll bet you don’t have a clue.
Yeah, but it’s talking about spies. Everyone knows the State Department are communists.
—either Discovery or History Channel (the little TV I watch tends to run together) several months ago had a carefully-done (Australian, IIRC)reconstruction of the JFK shooting which even ended up with similarly-deformed bullets, etc-—
The only person today who claims Oswald acted alone is Gerald Posner. He wrote a deeply flawed book based on a computer presentation of the assassination which was set up to ‘prove’ one assassin.
The MSM immediately grabbed on to it and declared all conspiracy proponents ‘nuts’.
The book has been widely debunked.
It’s a fake and the Warren Commission Report is a fake. Earl Warren was told Castro did it (by LBJ) and he (Warren) would have to lie to avoid WW III.
LBJ was a true bastard.
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