Posted on 04/12/2007 2:05:00 PM PDT by gcruse
In a retrieval once thought unattainable, scientists have recovered and identified proteins in a bone of a well-preserved Tyrannosaurus rex, a dinosaur that lived and died and was fossilized 68 million years ago.
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Repeated analysis of the T-rex proteins, the researchers said, uncovered new evidence of a link between dinosaurs and birds, a widely held but contentious hypothesis. Three of the seven reconstructed protein sequences were closely related to chickens. The scientists resisted being drawn into speculation on the likely taste of a T-rex drumstick.
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It is always such a good sign when the joke-cracking begins before the bona-fide scientific hypothesis is laid down -- NOT!!! [Must be some kind of "Leftie" inside joke.] Arguments like this usually end up all smoke and mirrors, attitude and atmospherics, with nothing substantial to follow.
It's hard to see how anything can be made of this sort of "evidence." But I'll be patient, waiting on the "experts."
A large body of observational evidence. Do let me know when you find the counter-observations.
What? Silly things end up in mass media coverage of scientific results. You can be sure there will be no jokes in the scientific publication, even though it would certainly make it less boring to read.
That's the best description of evolunacy that I've ever heard.
Cute, but pointless.
My other is common sense. See, I can point to mythical pictures from antiquity and show they mean as much as pictures drawn based on dinosaur bones.
Some more UFOs in cave paintings/carvings - http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/9054/ancient.html
My point was that showing carvings is little proof. Show me a human skeleton in the belly of a dinosaur, or vice versa, and then I’ll begin to ponder the outrageous 6K YO earth claims. There should be examples all over the place since we both inhabited the earth at the same time, and it sure looks like they enjoyed eating.
You know dern well dinos were allergic to humans- Don’;t beleive me? Pick up any ancient newspaper and note the dinos with hives- those were the ones trying to eat humans- So of course we can’t show humans in dino stomachs- besides, even if we had a specimen- it’d be argue away as being nothign more than some hick frerm the bakwoods who stumbled on the bones, tripped, falled right smack dab in the stomach area of the fossil bones, hit his head on the hip-bone and kilt himself. (This is from the ‘ready for anything’ little book of answers that anthropologists carry around- p: 117.)
[There should be examples all over the place since we both inhabited the earth at the same time, and it sure looks like they enjoyed eating.]
I’m afraid the examples are buried beneath the billions of transitional species skeletons, and are just too much bother to dig through- but they’re there.
Jeepers... Thank y’all for the pings!
“...nor are drawings of dinosaurs in ancient cave paintings(young earth means the paths MUST have crossed).”
Really, none at all?
http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/ancient/ancient.htm
***Cool, thanks for that link. It looks like a fun read. Bump for later reading.
You merely display the inability that science has to abandon the initial assumption of long-age. Everything is interpreted through the filter of a required long-age. When evidence that is not predicted appears, appeals to 'unknown conditions' are invoked to save the initial assumption of long-age.
C14 in coal (where it should not be) is explained-away as being created by underground radiation.
Anomalous fossils are explained-away as having been 'reworked'.
Life forms thought to be extinct for hundreds of millions of years are merely reclassed as 'living fossils' when found.
Absolutely everything is interpreted through the existing paradigm (long ages) and made to fit into it.
Dating methods used are based on initial assumptions. The radioactive isotope used to ‘date’ ages is based on the assumed age of the sample.
And don’t pretend that I’m saying scientists are dishonest. That would be dishonest.
Perhaps you won't make such a silly statement again, (that no one's mind is changed) but I'm thinking you will.
One can see that you were really only projecting your own attitude onto others with that statement.
The only thing silly here is theologial fantasy that dinos and humans had picnics together.
There was nothing silly about my statement.
I’m not saying humjans did or didn’t (I personally beleive they did) cohabitate with dinos, but these drawings are NOT based simply on observing dino bones- they depict dinos with characteristics NOT previously known to science until recently, they show a certain dino standing on rear legs which science has fairly recently determined they did so, they show skin features that are accurate as well as other features- simply dismissing them in a flip manner is not being objective but biased.
Anyways- Science is now saying this DNA taken from the dino bones ‘shows a link’ between dinos and birds lol- they fail to point out the billions of differences in the DNA, but glom on to similarities and make their emphatic statements. It just couldn’t be that God created species with working DNA similarities since the model worked but made each KIND a unique and distinct creature, oh heck no- just had to be evolution. Can’t ruffle any dino feathers by objectively concidering all angles.
Well, science did. Otherwise there was no need to be 'surprised' by the finding.
You 'assume' that it's not impossible simply because long-ages must be preserved at all costs. It's no different than invoking 'unknown conditions'.
No one is invoking a conspiracy except you.
There is no body of observational evidence over the time periods being invoked. There is no difference between our statements because the 'body of observational evidence' is not there. That is the point. That is simply a false statement intended to support what cannot be supported.
First you say there are no such paintings, then when I prove you wrong, the ones that do exist aren’t good enough for you.
It’s clear that proving you wrong means nothing and you’ll simply change your requirements in order to maintain your paradigm.
And showing a human skeleton in a dinosaur belly would be no different than the ‘living fossil’ species that are found quite regularly. It would simply be absorbed into the ever morphing evolutionary model. Just like the anomalous proteins that this article documents.
You merely call for what hasn’t been found yet and would just as easily change your requirements as you have already.
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