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To: tkathy
Black inner city women have terrible problems with irresponsible males.

I believe it is part of the human condition that males tend to be irresponsible. Women have a role in civilizing men. I believe George W. Bush gives Laura a great deal of credit for making him act like a a responsible person. This is common, IMO.

If a demographic group has an extra large proportion of irresponsible males, then I think something has gone wrong with the role that women play in that society.

I look at Oprah, and I see a powerful, rich, confident woman -- a woman who came up from nothing, who achieved more than anyone would have believed possible, a woman right at the top of her challenging profession -- and I see a woman who seems to encourage other women to wallow in their status of victims who are treated badly by their men-folk. That seems to define Oprah's core audience. It defines the plot for all the books that she recommends.

The heart of the problem is right there. Women are not supposed to see themselves as victims. Women are civilizers who build homes and families and nurture the next generation.

I don't know how that happened. And I certainly don't mean to imply that it's all "women's fault" when the crucial manifestation seems to be irresponsible men. But something ain't right.

24 posted on 04/10/2007 12:07:21 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I believe it is part of the human condition that males tend to be irresponsible. Women have a role in civilizing men.

I wonder if this is why women seem attracted to men who treat them poorly sometimes. I wonder if I wasted my time becoming overly civilized too fast.
25 posted on 04/10/2007 12:14:01 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: ClearCase_guy

In their real world, fancy rhetoric about contraception doesn’t connect.


26 posted on 04/10/2007 12:14:30 PM PDT by tkathy
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If I did my math correctly:

37% (estimated percentage of abortions perfomed on Black women each year) of 43 million people aborted since 1973 is 15,910,000 Blacks who were aborted.

What might they have done with their lives? What might they have contributed? How many kids would they have had, and how many Blacks would there be in the US today?

Is anyone upset? It’s actually pretty disgusting. What a news story this would make...


27 posted on 04/10/2007 12:16:57 PM PDT by dellbabe68
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To: ClearCase_guy
I don't know how that happened. And I certainly don't mean to imply that it's all "women's fault" when the crucial manifestation seems to be irresponsible men. But something ain't right.

It's pretty obvious what went wrong. If you listen to Gary Cobb--former NFL player and talk show host here in Philadelphia--Uncle Sugar came along in the 1960s waving a check under the nose of Black families headed by single parents.

Welfare destroyed Black families.
30 posted on 04/10/2007 12:27:51 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“But something ain’t right.” - What isn’t right is a very simple thing - welfare state per se. Eradicate it root, trunk and branches - and then the extended family will again become a primary social safety net, with all that it implies. As Charles Murray wrote long ago, it takes some [not much, but still some] IQ to figure out that going on the dole is a dead end. OK. Remove the temptation of the dole.


43 posted on 04/10/2007 8:09:15 PM PDT by GSlob
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