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Heads Up: GWB to speak on immigration reform 1:30PM ET
fox news | 4/9/2007 | staff

Posted on 04/09/2007 8:35:35 AM PDT by kellynla

President Bush will speak on immigration reform.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bush; duncanhunter; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: mhking
¿Dónde está el baño?

Este bano a la izquierdo.

I hope I said that right. It's been years since I had Spanish.

201 posted on 04/09/2007 10:54:11 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Giuliani: A strict constructionist judge can come to either conclusion about Roe against Wade.)
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To: ichabod1

Exactly. If the pro-amnesty crowd wants to prove their bona fides, let’s see their commitment to enforcing our borders first. Trust but verify. I see no sense of urgency in dealing with those already here.


202 posted on 04/09/2007 10:55:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kellynla

When the meat packing co’s were raided a few months ago, legals in droves showed up to fill the jobs that opened up when the illegals were deported.

Statistics show that Americans are doing ‘jobs’, because stats show that illegals do some 10-20% of those jobs. Who does the President think is doing the other 80-90% of the jobs?


203 posted on 04/09/2007 10:57:29 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TommyDale

I tried everything and finally found out that nibbling on raw carrots solves my heartburn problem better than any over the counter treatment. Much cheaper also.


204 posted on 04/09/2007 10:57:40 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: kabar

I’d also add that there is too much focus on the borders at the expense of the interior. We need to be concerned about all illegal immigration including visa overstayers who entered by sea and air.


205 posted on 04/09/2007 10:57:54 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (Demands, marches and media sob stories diminish my compassion.)
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To: Charlie007
What’s the cost of deporting every single one?

No need to do that. Just fine businesses $10K per day per illegal and watch the problem solve itself.
206 posted on 04/09/2007 10:58:19 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Charlie007
. . . By the 1830s the South had made its choice. In 1838, Senator John C. Calhoun of South Carolina said:

This [anti-slavery] agitation has produced one happy effect at least; it has compelled us to the South to look into the nature and character of this great institution, and to correct many false impressions that even we had entertained in relation to it. Many in the South once believed that it was a moral and political evil; that folly and delusion are gone; we see it now in its true light, and regard it as the most safe and stable basis for free institutions in the world. . . . Every plantation is a little community, with the master at its head, who concentrates in himself the united interests of capital and labor, of which he is the common representative.59

Calhoun and the South now insisted that slavery was "a positive good." They denied what Madison and the Founders had strongly affirmed, that there was an inseparable connection between the Constitution and the equal rights of humanity.60 The political theory of the Founding was now openly ridiculed. Like today's legal positivists, Southerners frequently put "natural law" in quotation marks, to show contempt for any notion of universal human rights.61 In 1857 George Fitzhugh wrote that books written by Southerners before the 1830s "are likely to be as absurd and as dangerous as the Declaration of Independence, or the Virginia Bill of Rights."62

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a377e2f80122d.htm

207 posted on 04/09/2007 10:58:34 AM PDT by donna (America used up all the good weather.)
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To: mhking
¿Dónde está el baño?

Anywhere north of the border.

208 posted on 04/09/2007 10:58:54 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ichabod1; kellynla; kabar; mhking; DancesWithBolsheviks; ZULU; SE Mom; spectre; VU4G10; HiJinx; ...
This is why I'm supporting Hunter for President.

"Let's build this fence."
Fence Ad

"I don't look at the border as an immigration issue, I look at it as a national security issue."

"I drafted that bill. It says 'shall.' That's the same language we put in the border fence in San Diego. Doggone it, this is the law. Follow the law."

209 posted on 04/09/2007 10:59:25 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

SNIFF.........So do I. Hit and run troll!


210 posted on 04/09/2007 11:00:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: petitfour

THis does not provide a Reagan quote on his mistake, but it does provide great insight into the decision and such.

I will continue to dig....

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18399


211 posted on 04/09/2007 11:00:17 AM PDT by HonestConservative (Hunter/Thompson (Gonzo Conservatives in 08))
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To: ohioWfan
I have no problem reciprocating civility. One thing we should all agree upon, above all else, is to disagree agreeably. If I have ever come off as uncivil to you, which is possible in these heated debates, then I apologize.

I will, however, never apologize for speaking the truth. One thing that really frustrates me is the knee-jerk fashion with which many on FR defend Bush, especially in regards to the issue of Illegal Immigration.

Bush deserves much criticism here, and to deny at this point that Bush wants the free and unrestricted flow of cheap labor across our Southern Borders to me is not only naive, but borders on cognitive dissonance. He has had more than six years, five of them after 9-11, to secure our borders, and still refuses to do it. That’s not an opinion, that’s a statement of fact. Our borders are not secure because Bush doesn't want them to be, and that’s the truth.

212 posted on 04/09/2007 11:00:38 AM PDT by rottndog (Mexico can go to Hell (Well actually it's already hell--Ask the millions who have fled from there))
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

Agreed. One-third of the illegals come from visa overstays.


213 posted on 04/09/2007 11:00:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: rottndog

Excellent. I remember having read it before. Bush will have no part of the above.


214 posted on 04/09/2007 11:01:54 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: HonestConservative
Couldn’t it just mean they are getting smarter? Or that our blessed border patrol doesn’t want to spend time in prison?

Border Patrol might think, why bother, it's just catch and release anyway.

215 posted on 04/09/2007 11:02:21 AM PDT by Netizen (More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war 2,158 ea year - Center for Immigration Studies)
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To: w1andsodidwe

I tried all the others, including carrots and apples. The only thing that is 100% effective is Protonix for me.


216 posted on 04/09/2007 11:02:48 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: kellynla
Wouldn’t it be sweeeeeet if while the cameras were running during Bush’s speech;there was an illegal running across the border in the background. ROFLMAO

Actually there is one out there. Spoofed but pretty funny.

217 posted on 04/09/2007 11:03:01 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: IM2MAD

Thank you.

And here is some background info for you!

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18399


218 posted on 04/09/2007 11:03:28 AM PDT by HonestConservative (Hunter/Thompson (Gonzo Conservatives in 08))
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To: Charlie007

I think you made your point.


219 posted on 04/09/2007 11:06:58 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: kabar
If you compare the 2006 Senate bill with the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli bill, it is remarkable how much of the language is the same.

It's amazing how many of the same people are telling the same exact lie they told in 1986 (Amnesty now, enforcement later). What's more amazing, and very sad, is how many people are buying into that lie today.
220 posted on 04/09/2007 11:07:00 AM PDT by rottndog (Mexico can go to Hell (Well actually it's already hell--Ask the millions who have fled from there))
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