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Mothballing the Fleet (Fred Thompson on Iran)
National Review Online ^ | March 28, 2007 5:15 PM | By Fred Thompson

Posted on 03/31/2007 11:42:51 AM PDT by DBCJR

Tony Blair’s getting angrier every day. But if past Iranian hostage takings are an indication, he may be upset for a while. The American-embassy hostages were held for 444 days, and the Israeli soldiers kidnapped last year by Iran’s Hezbollah puppets still aren’t free.

Blair is threatening to escalate to a “different phase,” but Iran’s leadership knows something that most Americans don’t. Two months ago, Britain’s government announced plans to mothball almost half its naval fleet due to defense-budget cuts. Much of its existing navy is already so degraded; it would take over a year to get into action. According to the British newspaper, the Daily Telegraph, senior naval officers say that the cuts “will turn Britain’s once-proud Navy into nothing more than a coastal defense force.”

In fact, the British naval forces have been so neglected; the U.K. probably couldn’t pull off the Falkland Islands mission today. The world’s fifth-largest economy now supports an army that ranks 28th in size.

What are they thinking?

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blair; fred; fredthompson; iran; thompson
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To: DKNY

Amen brother. He hosted a sham hearing.

If he tells us why, I might consider him.

Being President might be his reward for letting Clinton off the hook.


101 posted on 03/31/2007 4:13:13 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Abby is my girl....)
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To: DBCJR
Take a look at #29, & #44, both of which were replies to your "satellite photos".

It wasn't YOU who said or implied "Iranian satellite photos".

That was why I put it in double quotes; and why I specifically added the two idjits in the 'reply to' box.

The "LOL" is at the Satellite photos, where did you get them from the Iranian Propaganda mill? Go back to sleep. Nuke Iran! in response to your truthful claim that the photos PROVE the Brits were in Iraqi waters.

You really should read more carefully before calling me a 'liar', especially since I agree with your positions, and did not at all, in any way, contradict nor criticize YOUR post.

It was a ridiculing of the illiterate, i.e. 'the Illiterati', responders to your post.

Please don't tell me that yet another poster, out of way too many on here already, needs basic remedial reading classes.

102 posted on 03/31/2007 4:13:24 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: bert

How did he let Clinton off the hook?

Be ready.


103 posted on 03/31/2007 4:17:24 PM PDT by Hostage (I'm a Fredhead and I vote!)
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To: DBCJR

>Like the USSR?<


No. Like Russia and China.


104 posted on 03/31/2007 4:52:25 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: DBCJR

Perhaps you did not read my comment, as the "absolutely nothing of substance" remark would indicate. Fred said volumes in inuendo, the mark of an accomplished statesman, especially in foreign affairs. Communicating intent with deniability is an art that perhaps you missed.

Accomplished statesmen are not what we need anymore.. We have "accomplished statesmen" coming out our ears all Graduates Summa Cum Laude for the Chamberlain High and Quisling University.

What we need are Killers...

W


105 posted on 03/31/2007 4:54:19 PM PDT by WLR
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To: Hostage

I don't remember


106 posted on 03/31/2007 5:28:46 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Abby is my girl....)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
Hey, they are voters too. Just like our illegal aliens - the pols would like to curry their favor.
107 posted on 03/31/2007 5:32:23 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Peace through strength!)
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To: bert

Good answer to avoid the backlash but you already posted FDT let Clinton off the hook. So you let information go into your brain without first bothering to check its validity. Alot of people are that way, they're called lemmings.

He did not let Clinton off the hook.

He threw the book at Clinton on the obstruction charge.

The following link will make you realize that behind all that folksy Southern charm of Fred Thompson is a legal intellect of the highest order:

http://www.australianpolitics.com/usa/clinton/trial/statements/thompson.shtml

Vanderbuilt School of Law should be very proud.


108 posted on 03/31/2007 5:49:19 PM PDT by Hostage (I'm a Fredhead and I vote!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

" It wasn't YOU who said or implied "Iranian satellite photos"."

You replied to me, DBCJR, whether you meant it for someone else or not.

I apologize if you were offended. I don't think offensiveness has a place in intelligent discussion.


109 posted on 03/31/2007 7:10:11 PM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: DBCJR
Apology easily accepted; and I offer one of my own to you for being a wee, tad bit on the less than civil side in my reply back to you.

My rely was to you, but to point out how others jumped on you for supposedly taking Irans side, when it their own failure to understand what you had posted. I added them to the post, per board protocol when talking to some one about another's posts.

Did you note that the one went so far as to say that the Iranians should let the Brits rot in jail forever, since the photos you mentioned proved they were in Iraqi waters?

As you may guess, I dislike comments based upon one's own egregiously careless reading; and I'm seeing it more & more here, along with the knee-jerk, non sequitur replies on serious topic threads.

110 posted on 03/31/2007 8:49:36 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Jack_Macca
Again you are talking about a continent of disparate nations as if it was one nation.

The continent is becoming more united in terms of its national security policies. The EU has become a political reality that is eroding the individual sovereignty of the members. The Euro is an example of how the economies are being tied together. Trade policy, national secrurity policy, and foreign policy are becoming more multilateral.

I have more in common with you (and you with me) than with a guy sitting in Finland, Malta or Latvia.

Up to a point. But the trend is that you will be wedded more closely to them than us. Once the UK signs on to the Euro and the EU's proposed constitution, you will have more in common with the other EU members. Also, under the Maastricht and Amsterdam Treaties, there is free movement of people and labor between EU countries. As an American, I am treated by the UK differently than if I were a resident of an EU country.

If you wish to talk about Britain then fine, but the rest have nothing to do with me, any more than you should feel responsible for the policies of Mexico or Canada.

The UK is a member of the EU and NATO. Its national security and foreign policies are shaped by both institutions. I will refrain from using Europe and instead use the EU.

111 posted on 04/01/2007 5:47:45 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Jack_Macca
Who said any different? You don't get technology like that at Walmart. The point is that the Commons voted for the upgrades.

My point was that "there's many a slip between the cup and the lip." Much can happen within the next 17 years that could derail those plans of building new submarines for the Trident. The UK's declining expenditures on defense must be weighed on the availability of resources in the future and priorities. I can see a future labor government opting out of having nuclear weapons and relying on the US to provide the nuclear umbrella similar to what Japan does.

112 posted on 04/01/2007 5:54:00 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
Why is it whenever Muslims brandish their banners and signs threatening us, they cover their faces???

If Islam is so great and Allah so wonderful - show your face and stop hiding behind towels, ski masks, and hoods!!

Cowards!

113 posted on 04/01/2007 6:14:24 AM PDT by Florida native
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To: Hostage

Oh wow you did research! So you found that he switched his positions to suit the moment. Now go read how your boy rolled over and played dead for Glenn and the other dems.

Apparently it is you who is the lame basher, the one with a candiate, oh make that a non candidate who can't explain your support so you resort to childish name calling.

Once again you prove why FR and most of its members have become a pathetic joke on the internet, thanks to you and your ilk the place is suffering from a lack of credibility.


114 posted on 04/01/2007 6:14:32 AM PDT by DKNY ("You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it." --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: DKNY

I agreed with you, but I have faith that he learned a lesson...pray///pray.


115 posted on 04/01/2007 6:16:45 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: DBCJR

This is proof positive that the socialists are slowly getting what they want; a reduced military capacity replaced by a buildup in white flags. This will eventually happen to the USA also if the Dems are allowed to continue.


116 posted on 04/01/2007 6:27:58 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: DKNY

You have zero credibility until you provide credible backup.

Of course you will not provide such backup because there is none.

And that means you have zero credibility while you rant away from your little corner with your keyboard.


117 posted on 04/01/2007 8:00:14 AM PDT by Hostage (I'm a Fredhead and I vote!)
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To: DKNY

No thanks, we had a glimpse of Fred Thompson in action when he caved in to John Glenn during the Senate hearings. Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats would walk all over him."

I don't think so.
I put FDT in the category of "Fool me once: shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me.
I don't think the Demorats are going to fool him twice.


118 posted on 04/01/2007 8:08:30 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Jack_Macca

So what's your contention? The British Navy has suffered no real cuts in funding or effectiveness? It is as strong as it has ever been?


119 posted on 04/01/2007 8:18:13 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: BamaCharm
Apparently, Fred is the one with the facts in his corner. See the article posted above. I believe I could support Fred for prez.

At this point, it seems "Fred" is the only pseudo-candidate with a snowball's chance of making the Oval Office his own. Most of the others have too much baggage, or are artificially elevated to electability by wishful fantasizing.

120 posted on 04/01/2007 8:18:42 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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