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Fred Thompson Is No Ronald Reagan
The American Thinker ^ | March 26, 2007 | Steven M. Warshawsky

Posted on 03/26/2007 9:49:21 AM PDT by RepublicanPatriot

Yes, Thompson has portrayed strong executive leadership in his acting roles, but what reason do we have to believe that he will exhibit the same qualities in real life? Unlike Reagan, to whom he sometimes is compared, Thompson has never led a major labor organization, never served as governor, and never been considered one of the leaders of the conservative movement in this country.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservative; electionpresident; elections; fred; fredthompson; president; rudyshill; thompson
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To: flashbunny
However, a principled conservative (from either a libertarian or social conservative perspective) cannot win the presidency in 2008.

Definitely not on the side of conservatives!

221 posted on 03/26/2007 1:20:58 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: TheDon

Your tagline gave me a good line for 08.

"You can vote for the party of reason or the party of treason"


222 posted on 03/26/2007 1:23:07 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: WWTD

Excellent analysis!

I think the only chance for conservatism future viability outside the smokey backrooms of FRF is by nominating a candidate who is truly, consistently, demonstrably conservative AND who is eloquent enough to explain conservatism in a way that cannot be manipulated by the those enemies of America within and without.

You can attempt to label anyone as a conservative. Yet, nominating someone we merely can call a conservative, without the substance to back it up, will seal our downfall.


223 posted on 03/26/2007 1:23:59 PM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: Hoodlum91

This is interesting honey.


224 posted on 03/26/2007 1:24:26 PM PDT by RockinRight (Support FREDeralism. Fred Thompson in 2008!)
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To: flashbunny
Wow, A giuliani backer going after fred thompson. Who woulda thunk that?

It is surprising that he admits that Giuliani is NOT a principled conservative.

225 posted on 03/26/2007 1:25:37 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ( It diesnt matter who wins in 2008. It's Nehmiah Scudder In 2012)
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To: flashbunny

I can scarcely believe that people are still trying to smear Fred with last week's discredited rumor ... a fear-driven, "did-you-hear" whispering campaign built on a lie ... so sad. All it accomplishes is to reflect poorly on the candidates the rumor-mongers are actually backing.


226 posted on 03/26/2007 1:25:49 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: WWTD
Thanks for the well thought out response. Now we're getting somewhere.

Fred has always been conservative - his entry will demolish Romney. Rudy is the biggest celebrity in the race, but Fred's tought guy Hollywood image would make a dent in that advantage.

Fred's built in advantage is that among hard core conservatives, there is an appetite for a candidate with views they can support without holding their nose. Fred's that guy.

The problem is that it's not quite that simple. The primaries are getting earlier and earlier. The cost of running for President is getting fantastically expensive. And the support and backers you need have to be lined up well in advance. Simply put, if he wants to be President, he can't wait another month or two to mull his options.

Even if the far right wanted to derail Rudy, by then it may be impossible. Even if Thompson joined the race tomorrow, he'd need to come up with 100 million dollars, and numbers that could beat Giuliani. Easier said than done. Because he's not joining the race until his close friend John McCain drops out, and that may be several months.

As for the "fire in the belly" problem, I agree that RR was the greatest president of the 20th century, and he certainly did run for four years before 1980. However, his 1976 candidacy was not so much planned - he ran because Ford did not represent the conservative movement, just as Thompson (and the rest of us) correctly perceive that there isn't a real conservative among Rudy McRomney.

How does that address the "fire in the belly" issue with Fred Thompson? Sure, there's a vacuum, but opportunity alone isn't enough. Say what you aill about Hillary and Rudy, but they're not afraid to jump in the pit and get punched in the face, all day, every day, to fight for the brass ring.

Incidentally, our greatest president ever was George Washington. He was reluctant to be president as well. He never wanted a second term but was talked into it.

Not to belabor the obvious, but George Washington had an achievement or two under his belt that perhaps inclined people to hand him the job and beg him to stay for as long as he liked. While Fred's had a good acting career, it's not that good.

227 posted on 03/26/2007 1:29:41 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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To: libertyhoundusnr

I would vote for him simply because he is not from NY or has ever made a lame attempt to represent NY.




I'm from NY and I agree!

Nothing good comes out of NY except the masses who have left in the lsst 30 years (we're leaving soon).


228 posted on 03/26/2007 1:32:05 PM PDT by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: Steel Wolf

I am concerned about this "fire in the belly" issue. Frankly, all of the people jumping, heck, hurling themselves headlong like lemings into a campaign for an election so early (they've been campaigning forever already, it seems) is concerning. It reminds me of herd behavior. Obamma, Hitlery, then all the pilers-on. Either a herd or vultures.

This campaign for 08 has begun waaayyy too early and I really don't see how there is sufficient information available to determine that Fred is reluctant. Could be that what we are seeing is a careful consideration of the issue before plunging headlong. Or, he could be giggling to himself that some love him for pres. while he has no intention of running at all. There's just not enough information to know. And, the absence of information is not proof.


229 posted on 03/26/2007 1:36:14 PM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: eastsider
It's all they have. They're starting to FLOPSWEAT at the thought popular, much more conservative candidate entering the field. Let's start a new chant: Only Fred Thompson can beat hillary!
230 posted on 03/26/2007 1:38:02 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: delphirogatio

I think he's getting free publicity and buzz while the others spend campaign money.

I heard an ad on the radio from rudy asking people to join his campaign. He paid for that ad. Meanwhile, millions of people heard Fred Thompson on paul harvey's radio show - and he's getting paid to do it!


231 posted on 03/26/2007 1:39:44 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: dangus
Believe you me, Thompson is not hanging around, waiting. If he is at all interested in a campaign, he is rounding up campaign workers, feeling out donors, conducting issues research, etc. He is also performing cost-benefit and feasibility analyses of every aspect of running.

Well, I am in the sausage factory and that is what is so amazing to those of us who toil in this game (I am a consultant -- was a consultant to the California Legislature from 1976 to 1983, and currently a self-employed marketing analyst and entrepreneur who has done quite a bit of work in the political area).

Nothing like that is happening, which is causing people to wonder whether he is just running for Veep.

232 posted on 03/26/2007 1:41:20 PM PDT by massadvj
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To: GingisK
I will not cast a vote for RG under any circumstances. I will not vote for the lesser of two evils.

You know, my momma used to tell me that when a schoolyard whiner tells you that you better do things his way or he's gonna take his ball and go home... you probably ought to let him.

233 posted on 03/26/2007 1:44:32 PM PDT by massadvj
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To: Steel Wolf

Michael Barone would disagree with you and did last week with Hugh Hewitt I believe. I'm searching for quote.


234 posted on 03/26/2007 1:44:58 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: delphirogatio
This campaign for 08 has begun waaayyy too early and I really don't see how there is sufficient information available to determine that Fred is reluctant.

In a sense, I agree with you completely. This is starting too early.

But it's started.

And, it's going to start this early or earlier for pretty much the rest of our lives. Media, money, and the times are changing how we elect Presidents. It's one thing to not like it, but it's another to ignore it. As FReepers, we can sit around and complain about how things were better when campaigns didn't start so early. We're not running for anything.

If we were, someone else would eat our lunch.

235 posted on 03/26/2007 1:45:11 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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To: RepublicanPatriot

Nobody is Ronald Reagan. I look forward to the day when people stop trying to claim that about any politician.


236 posted on 03/26/2007 1:45:26 PM PDT by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I don't know anyone who switched from Hunter to Newt.

It was newt to hunter, and all you need do is revisit the Rudy bashing pages for a refresher.

237 posted on 03/26/2007 1:46:46 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: flashbunny

I see your point.

See, the problem is all of these people have been campaigning forever, but nothing is really happening, campaign-wise. I mean, you have Obama taking a decisive move over the weekend to criticise Nifong. Ridiculous. What milquetoast crap. Only a moonbat from the furthest galaxy is unaware of Nifong's wrong-doing. But this is what passes for "a position" these days?

I want more substance from everyone. If we're having a campaign, then let's cut the small talk and get to brass tacks. Let's have some debates. Let's have some real airtime.

But then everyone says it's too early for that. So, it's too early for substance, but too late to say you want to be a part of insubstantial wasting of campaign funds on photo-ops?? I guess I'm the idiot.


238 posted on 03/26/2007 1:46:55 PM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: traderrob6
Michael Barone would disagree with you and did last week with Hugh Hewitt I believe. I'm searching for quote.

I'm not one to sit on ceremony and demand links. If you don't have the quote handy, feel free to paraphrase it.

239 posted on 03/26/2007 1:47:03 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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WAIT AND SEE MODE ON.

240 posted on 03/26/2007 1:48:44 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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