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Giuliani campaigns in Newport Beach (and outlines his positions)
Daily PIlot ^ | March 24, 2007 | Amanda Pennington and Alicia Robinson

Posted on 03/25/2007 11:44:12 AM PDT by FairOpinion

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani led off with his strongest card, his terrorism-fighting credentials, before touching on healthcare, immigration and energy policy in a speech to a welcoming crowd Saturday.

"Sept. 11, 2001, taught me — and I believe it taught a lot of people, including President Bush — that we have to remain on offense," Giuliani said. "That means that we have to use our military. We can't show weakness."

Giuliani seemed to hit all the right notes Saturday, getting applause when he criticized Democrats' stance on healthcare and advocated vouchers for schools.

On immigration, he told reporters he doesn't support amnesty for illegal immigrants, but he could support a guest worker program if there were adequate border security and tamper-proof ID cards. He said that even if illegal immigrants "can demonstrate that they are lawful, that they are paying taxes [and] that they'll pay penalties," they still shouldn't be put ahead of people who go through legal channels.

"And citizenship here, if it's earned, should be premised on being able to read and write English and understand American history, so we restore assimilation to the process of immigration," he said.

"Nothing will unite the Republicans more than a candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton," Curry said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailypilot.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; giuliani; rudy
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To: Hydroshock

None of the Rudy fans cares to admit the truth of post # 85.


121 posted on 03/25/2007 2:57:20 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Combat Tested Vietnam Veteran! DUNCAN HUNTER !!)
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To: TomServo

My daughter was at the rally last night at his table. Believe me this guy is a keeper....


122 posted on 03/25/2007 3:09:01 PM PDT by Sovernity (What are You doing other than talking and listening???)
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To: wagglebee; KATIE-O

Rudy is no Reagan. Reagan was a conservative and his core beliefs were the thing that drew in the voters that contributed to landslides.

His personal life was not perfect, but he did not champion liberal causes, embrace homosexuality, abortion and fight to take away arms.

All of these things Rudy has done. He cannot get away from it because it is on the record.

His views on social issues are a danger to our future. His views advance liberal causes.

He is not a conservative and has never claimed to be in the past. His candidacy will lose more voters than he could ever pick up.

Take your blinders off and look at the whole package.


123 posted on 03/25/2007 3:10:29 PM PDT by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: Blackirish

So far as I can tell, your referenced post was a copy of some news article or opinion from somewhere. I seem to remember reading it before.

But you posted no identifying information, so I can't tell for certain if it is someone else's work or your own.

So not only could that be spam, and thread hijacking, it could also be plagerism.

Of course, if it is your own words, I apologize. It just looks exactly like an article I read earlier.


124 posted on 03/25/2007 3:12:40 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: wagglebee; narses

That's not really spamming, but posting entire comments repeatedly that don't directly relate to the topic of a thread would be spamming.


125 posted on 03/25/2007 3:13:37 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: airborne

I've started identifying them on other threads, usually lambasting people for socially conservative opinions.


126 posted on 03/25/2007 3:17:03 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: FairOpinion
Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani led off with his strongest card, his terrorism-fighting credentials, before touching on healthcare, immigration and energy policy in a speech to a welcoming crowd Saturday.

I hope it's OK to discuss the information in the article.

What has Rudy done to make "terrorism-fighting" one of his strongest cards?

Sure, he threw Arafat out of a theater once, but that hardly qualifies as fighting terrorism.

What has Rudy done to fight terrorism? We know what he did after terrorists attacked his city for the 2nd time. He reacted well to a terrorist attack, but he did nothing to fight the terrorists.

127 posted on 03/25/2007 3:28:15 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You are repeating Democrat talking points -- "attack Rudy on his 9-11 leadership".


128 posted on 03/25/2007 3:29:47 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: oceanview
Talent and Allen were RINOs?

I don't believe I said they were RINOs. I said earlier that all Republcans were punished for their behavior. They governed like RINOs. Rudy behaves and governs like a true RINO, because he is. He may be more lib than some RINOs.

129 posted on 03/25/2007 3:34:05 PM PDT by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: Sovernity

Fine. You keep him...


130 posted on 03/25/2007 3:39:51 PM PDT by TomServo ("Jim Henson's Flying Leatherneck Babies!")
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To: daviddennis
From what I can see, Thompson's acting career was considerably more successful than his political one. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't make me think of him as Presidential material.

D




As much as I like Fred Thompson, I have to agree with you. He really has no record of leadership, especially at this critical time in our history.
131 posted on 03/25/2007 3:48:16 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: FairOpinion
Pretending that Giuliani is no different from Hillary is not only disingenuous, but it's an insult to people's intelligence.

Can you offer me any reason why I should believe that Mr. Giuliani would be any less likely to attack the Second Amendment than would be Mrs. Clinton? From what I can tell, Giuliani's record is worse.

132 posted on 03/25/2007 3:51:54 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Blackirish
Discrediting the commitment of the Mayor to run for President did not work. Telling....(DESPERATE SPAMMING) Republicans that the Mayor’s positions on issues are unacceptable to primary voters does not work either. http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/03/rudy_memo_stron_1.html





Bravo. Very good analysis.
133 posted on 03/25/2007 3:52:49 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

And still not one Rudy fan will admit to the truth.


134 posted on 03/25/2007 3:55:57 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Combat Tested Vietnam Veteran! DUNCAN HUNTER !!)
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To: wagglebee
Other than the fact that he is a conservative, is there any reason you don't like Duncan Hunter?




You seem to think just being a conservative makes him qualified or even electable. Most people in this country don't even know who he is. And a stint in the US Congress is not a very impressive record of leadership. I have nothing against the man. I just don't think he can win.
135 posted on 03/25/2007 3:57:11 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: airborne
The reason you Rudy folks keep saying "only Rudy can beat Hillary" is because you're trying to distract others from the fact that, when compared to the other Republican candidates, Rudy looks just like the liberal he is.

So you stand him next to an even more liberal liberal, Hillary.

And then you repeat "the mantra". It's all you have.

But we are not fooled by the deception.




It's a vast right wing conspiracy.
136 posted on 03/25/2007 3:58:52 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: KATIE-O
How can you say that with a straight face when this country is split right down the middle and anyone who wins will have to pull in Independent votes as well as Moderate Democrat votes. Reagan did it and formed a whole voting block known as "Reagan Democrats." Rudy will be able to do the same thing.

If the party is indeed split down the middle, then shouldn't the two parties' candidates be roughly equidistant from the center (and on opposite sides thereof)?

137 posted on 03/25/2007 3:59:07 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: FairOpinion

Is there anyone left in Newport Beach that speaks ENGLISH?


138 posted on 03/25/2007 4:00:26 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: KATIE-O

That's your response?

That's the best you can come up with?

You can't refute it so you make a joke.

You prove my point. Thank you.


139 posted on 03/25/2007 4:02:50 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Combat Tested Vietnam Veteran! DUNCAN HUNTER !!)
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To: FairOpinion
Let me repeat (from the article):
"Nothing will unite the Republicans more than a candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton," Curry said.

LET ME REPEAT... HE IS NO DIFFERENT!


140 posted on 03/25/2007 4:04:27 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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