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Giuliani campaigns in Newport Beach (and outlines his positions)
Daily PIlot ^ | March 24, 2007 | Amanda Pennington and Alicia Robinson

Posted on 03/25/2007 11:44:12 AM PDT by FairOpinion

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani led off with his strongest card, his terrorism-fighting credentials, before touching on healthcare, immigration and energy policy in a speech to a welcoming crowd Saturday.

"Sept. 11, 2001, taught me — and I believe it taught a lot of people, including President Bush — that we have to remain on offense," Giuliani said. "That means that we have to use our military. We can't show weakness."

Giuliani seemed to hit all the right notes Saturday, getting applause when he criticized Democrats' stance on healthcare and advocated vouchers for schools.

On immigration, he told reporters he doesn't support amnesty for illegal immigrants, but he could support a guest worker program if there were adequate border security and tamper-proof ID cards. He said that even if illegal immigrants "can demonstrate that they are lawful, that they are paying taxes [and] that they'll pay penalties," they still shouldn't be put ahead of people who go through legal channels.

"And citizenship here, if it's earned, should be premised on being able to read and write English and understand American history, so we restore assimilation to the process of immigration," he said.

"Nothing will unite the Republicans more than a candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton," Curry said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailypilot.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; giuliani; rudy
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To: oceanview
when his full position is shown, Thompson will have the exact same position on immigration that Rudy is expressing here.




And if Fred Thompson gets the Republican nomination I will happily vote for him. I do have reservations about his lack of experience however. He hasn't really established much of a record on anything.
101 posted on 03/25/2007 2:18:07 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: wagglebee; narses

"And they refuse to answer what I posted in #60"


Prolly because it's stupid...not true and and nobody wants to waste there time on it?


102 posted on 03/25/2007 2:18:10 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Peach

Oh, I've paid attention.

It's not hard to spot the hard core Rudy supporters.

And maybe you "don't remember" saying it (like Hillary kept saying, but if I had time to waste going back and reading all your posts, I would not be surprised to find that you had.

Be that as it may, there's no denying (honstly) that my post is true.


103 posted on 03/25/2007 2:18:24 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Combat Tested Vietnam Veteran! DUNCAN HUNTER !!)
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To: Blackirish
Prolly because it's stupid...not true and and nobody wants to waste there time on it?

Please explain how a hypothetical scenario can be untrue.

104 posted on 03/25/2007 2:19:23 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Peach
I read the link and it says nothing more than Islamic terrorism is an important issue to Evangelical Christians. It certainly doesn't say they're happy with Giuliani or plan to vote for him.

It's interesting that Rudy supporters alternate between dimissing Evangelical Christian voters as out of touch and claiming they will not be missed, what with all the "moderate" and crossover votes Rudy will be getting and fervently trying to convince us that Evangelicals have seen the light and will put aside their objections and vote for Rudy anyway.

105 posted on 03/25/2007 2:19:49 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: Blackirish

Don't count on it.

AlGore is enjoying his Hollywood celebrity status and the big money that comes with it.

He won't risk all that to risk losing.

Nice side step of my original point, though.


106 posted on 03/25/2007 2:21:16 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Combat Tested Vietnam Veteran! DUNCAN HUNTER !!)
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To: Blackirish

Questions about positions are "stupid"? Wow, how liberal of you.


107 posted on 03/25/2007 2:21:42 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Blackirish

Lets just get hillery to run with a r by her name .... then we won't need rudy.
the r's can win .... right ?


108 posted on 03/25/2007 2:22:30 PM PDT by THEUPMAN (####### comment deleted by moderator)
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To: Steel Wolf
Would this be a bad time to point out that we're in a war? Or that Hillary would be worse on the economy, socialized medicine, foreign policy, and pretty much everything that doesn't revolve around guns, gays and abortion?

Rudy maybe to the left of us on those three issues, but he's hardly hard left. To say he's a flaming liberal simply doesn't square up with what territory the left is occupying these days.




Rudy Giuliani is no more a "flaming liberal" than
George Bush is. This argument lacks credibility and makes the writer look foolish. Cindy Sheehan and Martin Sheen are "flaming liberals!"
109 posted on 03/25/2007 2:24:34 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: wagglebee

I'm a little surprised how many are suddenly denying the "only Rudy can beat Hillary" manta, now that I've pointed out the obvious deception.

I expected to be ignored again.

You know, "If you can't answer a question, ignore it".


110 posted on 03/25/2007 2:24:50 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Combat Tested Vietnam Veteran! DUNCAN HUNTER !!)
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To: narses
Questions about positions are "stupid"? Wow, how liberal of you.

And hypotheticals are somehow "untrue." Go figure.

111 posted on 03/25/2007 2:25:24 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
Reality:


Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani, 107th Mayor

Opening Remarks to the N.A.R.A.L. "Champions of Choice" Lunch

The Yale Club, Thursday, April 5th, 2001

As Delivered


Thank you very much for inviting me to say a few words of welcome. This event shows that people of different political parties and different political thinking can unite in support of choice. In doing so, we are upholding a distinguished tradition that began in our city starting with the work of Margaret Sanger and the movement for reproductive freedom that began in the early decades of the 20th century.

As a Republican who supports a woman's right to choose, it is particularly an honor to be here. And I would like to explain, just for one moment, why I believe being in favor of choice is consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. In fact, it might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices. Republicans stand for lower taxation because we believe that people can make better choices with their money than the government will make for them, and that ultimately frees the economy and produces more political freedom. We believe that, yes, government is important, but that the private sector is actually more important in solving our problems.

So it is consistent with that philosophy to believe that in the most personal and difficult choices that a woman has to make with regard to a pregnancy, those choices should be made based on that person's conscience and that person's way of thinking and feeling. The government shouldn't dictate that choice by making it a crime or making it illegal.

I think that's actually a much more consistent position. Many Republicans support that position, but you don't hear that as often. For example, in a recent poll by American Viewpoint, 65 percent of Republicans supported changing the plank in the Republican platform that calls for a constitutional ban on abortion. That's 6.5 out of every 10 Republicans. And over 80 percent of Republicans believe that the decision with regard to an abortion should be made by a woman, her doctor, and her family rather than dictated by the government.

[Applause]

In any case, I just wanted you to know that many of my fellow Republicans stand with you on this issue. So I thank you, I thank NARAL for taking the lead in establishing freedom of choice for all of us, and as the Mayor of New York City, I thank you for being here in New York City.

# # #
http://www.nyc.gov/html/rwg/html/2001b/champlunch.html

112 posted on 03/25/2007 2:27:37 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: KATIE-O

Yup.

If you can't answer a question, ignore it.


113 posted on 03/25/2007 2:27:58 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Combat Tested Vietnam Veteran! DUNCAN HUNTER !!)
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To: indylindy
If conservatives get back to conservatism, they will win.



How can you say that with a straight face when this country is split right down the middle and anyone who wins will have to pull in Independent votes as well as Moderate Democrat votes. Reagan did it and formed a whole voting block known as "Reagan Democrats." Rudy will be able to do the same thing.
114 posted on 03/25/2007 2:28:20 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: Blackirish
You already know that a fraction of FR won't support Rudy, even against Hillary.

I take it you don't think FR is representative of the preferences of the Republican base, albeit better informed. If so, tell that to the owner and see what kind of response you'll get.

Conservative refusal to turn out for Rudy will sink his candidacy once the MSM turns on the jets to inform them of his history. Of course, the mediots will wait until he's nominated to get really cranking and if you think they're anti-Rudy now, you ain't seen nothing yet.

115 posted on 03/25/2007 2:32:44 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser: Bringing fashionable fascism to Kaleeforia, one charade at a time.)
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To: narses
I think that's actually a much more consistent position. Many Republicans support that position, but you don't hear that as often. For example, in a recent poll by American Viewpoint, 65 percent of Republicans supported changing the plank in the Republican platform that calls for a constitutional ban on abortion. That's 6.5 out of every 10 Republicans. And over 80 percent of Republicans believe that the decision with regard to an abortion should be made by a woman, her doctor, and her family rather than dictated by the government.

I don't even think this is true of Americans in general, much less Republicans.

116 posted on 03/25/2007 2:43:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: KATIE-O; indylindy
Moderate Democrat votes. Reagan did it and formed a whole voting block known as "Reagan Democrats." Rudy will be able to do the same thing.

The Reagan Democrats were sick of the liberalism of the Democrat Party, they viewed Reagan's principles as more in tune with their own, so they were content to put a Republican in office.

Why would Democrats in 2008 vote to put a Republican in the White House when they can vote for a Democrat WHO BELIEVES EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS RUDY.

117 posted on 03/25/2007 2:46:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Steel Wolf

He is hard left and I place greater weight on the social issues as a whole.


118 posted on 03/25/2007 2:46:59 PM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: KATIE-O
I just love your tagline !

"Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08"

The liberals are optimistic, NARAL is optimistic, the homosexuals are optimistic, and the media is optimistic.


Yippee!
119 posted on 03/25/2007 2:48:15 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Combat Tested Vietnam Veteran! DUNCAN HUNTER !!)
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To: KATIE-O

There is no way I will vote for a liberal statist like Rino Rudy.


120 posted on 03/25/2007 2:53:51 PM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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