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Posted on 03/20/2007 7:08:25 AM PDT by Finally Awake
Christian-Arab Predicts World Islam Takeover - Unless...
by Hillel Fendel
(IsraelNN.com) "When will you Westerners realize that half-measures don't work with people who are willing to die by the thousands for Allah to achieve their goal?" This was the upshot of a recent conversation between a Holocaust survivor living in Herzliya and a Christian-Arab living in the Galilee.
Following are excerpts from the Christian-Arab's remarks, based on article by Solly Ganor for FrontPage Magazine:
"I have to tell you something which very few of you seem to comprehend. Your [Israel's] bungling war against a few thousand Hizbullah fighters which you should have crushed no matter what, considering the importance of the outcome, has created a completely new situation, not only for this area, but globally. Your inept leadership totally misunderstood the importance of winning this war.
"As a matter of fact, the whole Moslem world, not only the Arabs, simply couldn't believe that the mighty Israeli Army that defeated the combined Arab forces in six days in 1967, and almost captured Cairo and Damascus in 1973, couldn't defeat a small army of Hizbullah men. As usual the Moslems see things the way they want to see things. Most think that the present generation of Israelis have gone soft and can be defeated.
"The American bungling of the war in Iraq only added to their conviction that victory not only over Israel but also over the West is not only possible, but certain. The ramifications of these two bungling wars may bring an Islamic bloody Tsunami all over the West, not only in Israel. The sharks smell blood and these two wars gave them the green light to attack sooner than they had in mind. Your problem is that you are on the defensive and they have the option to choose the time and the places when and where to attack and there is nothing much you can do about it.
"When will you Westerners realize that half-measures don't work with people who are willing to die by the thousands for Allah to achieve their goal? In their eyes the Western World is simply an abomination on earth that has to be wiped out.
"The Americans, the Europeans, and even you Israelis really don't know what it is all about, do you? During the last generation hundreds of thousands of children have been taught all over the Moslem world in Madrass schools to become martyrs for Allah in order to kill the infidels. These youngsters not only are ready to do it, but are actually in the process of doing it. Bombs are going off all over the world killing and maiming thousands of people, not only on 9/11 in the US, in London Madrid and Bali, but in Africa, India, Bangladesh, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and many other places. The first signs of the Islamic Tsunami are already here, but the West doesn't understand, or doesn't want to understand what is coming. "The Americans, instead of realizing that this is as bad as World War Two, or even worse, are going to pull out of Iraq, handing it over to Iran on a silver platter.
"The Americans, instead of realizing that this is as bad as World War Two, or even worse, are going to pull out of Iraq, handing it over to Iran on a silver platter. Next may come the Saudis and the rest of the Gulf states. When dirty bombs go off all over Western towns, who is going to stop the Iranians?
"Now is the time to stop them, not only because they are developing nuclear bombs, but because Iran has become the base for all Islamic terrorism. They supply money, men, and weapons to Islamic terrorists around the world, quite often through their diplomatic mail... They believe, and perhaps rightly so, that the West will do nothing to stop them in achieving their goals. Is history repeating itself?
"As a history teacher who studied the subject thoroughly, I can tell you that Western victory in World War Two was not at all certain. Hitler could have won the war if he would have gone ahead with the atomic bomb development before the Americans. The Germans began working on it in the thirties, and it was Hitler's decision to prefer building more conventional arms, as he considered atomic weapons sheer fantasy. Hitler made the wrong decision, but had he made the right decision the world would have been a different type of world today, wouldn't it? The West won the war against Hitler by sheer chance. Very few people seem to realize that.
"Coming back to our time, the Iranians rely on the West doing nothing about their development of nuclear bombs. They also rely on their secret weapon: an inexhaustible supply of Islamic suicide bombers, some of them who are already planted all over the Western World. Besides the Islamic countries that supply these suicide bombers, a second front has been opened, and that is the Internet with more than five thousand Islamic web sites, brain washing and urging young Moslems to become martyrs for Allah. They especially target young Moslems who live in Europe and the West in general. The Western intelligence authorities consider these web sites a bigger threat than the Iranian atomic bomb.
"I think Hizbullah will attack again as soon as they are fully re-equipped and I think it will be during the summer, while Israel is still in a military and political turmoil... This time you will have to destroy Hizbullah no matter what the cost may be.
"Of course, your next round against Hizbullah may involve the Syrians and the Iranians against you. The Iranians declared that they will not allow Hizbullah to be defeated no matter what and may launch their missiles against you. So will the Syrians. What will Israel do? It is unlikely that Israel will accept its destruction and may use their nuclear arsenal if the West will not come to their help...
"I think there are two ways to avoid [this Armageddon]. One can be a major war which the West can win. As in World War Two, had the West attacked the Germans in 1936 the war would have lasted not more than a month with very few casualties. Their procrastination resulted in World War II with all its consequences. Eventually, the West will have to tackle the Iranians, it is better that they do it now to avert a world catastrophe later. With Iran defeated the Islamic onslaught will lose its base, and it may be the turning point in history to defeat the menace of extreme Islam. The majority of the Moslems don't want this confrontation anyway.
"[Alternatively,] all the West has to do is follow Putin's ways. He assassinates his enemies without blinking an eye. Assassinate the four or five Mullahs who run the show, Ahmadinejad and a few more Iranian fanatics, and the War can be avoided. It may be difficult to do, but not impossible. With today's hi-tech technology I am sure that new weapons against individuals are being prepared right now. I think it would be a better way of handling the matter than an all-out war against Islam."
by Hillel Fendel
(IsraelNN.com) "When will you Westerners realize that half-measures don't work with people who are willing to die by the thousands for Allah to achieve their goal?" This was the upshot of a recent conversation between a Holocaust survivor living in Herzliya and a Christian-Arab living in the Galilee.
Following are excerpts from the Christian-Arab's remarks, based on article by Solly Ganor for FrontPage Magazine:
"I have to tell you something which very few of you seem to comprehend. Your [Israel's] bungling war against a few thousand Hizbullah fighters which you should have crushed no matter what, considering the importance of the outcome, has created a completely new situation, not only for this area, but globally. Your inept leadership totally misunderstood the importance of winning this war.
"As a matter of fact, the whole Moslem world, not only the Arabs, simply couldn't believe that the mighty Israeli Army that defeated the combined Arab forces in six days in 1967, and almost captured Cairo and Damascus in 1973, couldn't defeat a small army of Hizbullah men. As usual the Moslems see things the way they want to see things. Most think that the present generation of Israelis have gone soft and can be defeated.
"The American bungling of the war in Iraq only added to their conviction that victory not only over Israel but also over the West is not only possible, but certain. The ramifications of these two bungling wars may bring an Islamic bloody Tsunami all over the West, not only in Israel. The sharks smell blood and these two wars gave them the green light to attack sooner than they had in mind. Your problem is that you are on the defensive and they have the option to choose the time and the places when and where to attack and there is nothing much you can do about it.
"When will you Westerners realize that half-measures don't work with people who are willing to die by the thousands for Allah to achieve their goal? In their eyes the Western World is simply an abomination on earth that has to be wiped out.
"The Americans, the Europeans, and even you Israelis really don't know what it is all about, do you? During the last generation hundreds of thousands of children have been taught all over the Moslem world in Madrass schools to become martyrs for Allah in order to kill the infidels. These youngsters not only are ready to do it, but are actually in the process of doing it. Bombs are going off all over the world killing and maiming thousands of people, not only on 9/11 in the US, in London Madrid and Bali, but in Africa, India, Bangladesh, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and many other places. The first signs of the Islamic Tsunami are already here, but the West doesn't understand, or doesn't want to understand what is coming. "The Americans, instead of realizing that this is as bad as World War Two, or even worse, are going to pull out of Iraq, handing it over to Iran on a silver platter.
"The Americans, instead of realizing that this is as bad as World War Two, or even worse, are going to pull out of Iraq, handing it over to Iran on a silver platter. Next may come the Saudis and the rest of the Gulf states. When dirty bombs go off all over Western towns, who is going to stop the Iranians?
"Now is the time to stop them, not only because they are developing nuclear bombs, but because Iran has become the base for all Islamic terrorism. They supply money, men, and weapons to Islamic terrorists around the world, quite often through their diplomatic mail... They believe, and perhaps rightly so, that the West will do nothing to stop them in achieving their goals. Is history repeating itself?
"As a history teacher who studied the subject thoroughly, I can tell you that Western victory in World War Two was not at all certain. Hitler could have won the war if he would have gone ahead with the atomic bomb development before the Americans. The Germans began working on it in the thirties, and it was Hitler's decision to prefer building more conventional arms, as he considered atomic weapons sheer fantasy. Hitler made the wrong decision, but had he made the right decision the world would have been a different type of world today, wouldn't it? The West won the war against Hitler by sheer chance. Very few people seem to realize that.
"Coming back to our time, the Iranians rely on the West doing nothing about their development of nuclear bombs. They also rely on their secret weapon: an inexhaustible supply of Islamic suicide bombers, some of them who are already planted all over the Western World. Besides the Islamic countries that supply these suicide bombers, a second front has been opened, and that is the Internet with more than five thousand Islamic web sites, brain washing and urging young Moslems to become martyrs for Allah. They especially target young Moslems who live in Europe and the West in general. The Western intelligence authorities consider these web sites a bigger threat than the Iranian atomic bomb.
"I think Hizbullah will attack again as soon as they are fully re-equipped and I think it will be during the summer, while Israel is still in a military and political turmoil... This time you will have to destroy Hizbullah no matter what the cost may be.
"Of course, your next round against Hizbullah may involve the Syrians and the Iranians against you. The Iranians declared that they will not allow Hizbullah to be defeated no matter what and may launch their missiles against you. So will the Syrians. What will Israel do? It is unlikely that Israel will accept its destruction and may use their nuclear arsenal if the West will not come to their help...
"I think there are two ways to avoid [this Armageddon]. One can be a major war which the West can win. As in World War Two, had the West attacked the Germans in 1936 the war would have lasted not more than a month with very few casualties. Their procrastination resulted in World War II with all its consequences. Eventually, the West will have to tackle the Iranians, it is better that they do it now to avert a world catastrophe later. With Iran defeated the Islamic onslaught will lose its base, and it may be the turning point in history to defeat the menace of extreme Islam. The majority of the Moslems don't want this confrontation anyway.
"[Alternatively,] all the West has to do is follow Putin's ways. He assassinates his enemies without blinking an eye. Assassinate the four or five Mullahs who run the show, Ahmadinejad and a few more Iranian fanatics, and the War can be avoided. It may be difficult to do, but not impossible. With today's hi-tech technology I am sure that new weapons against individuals are being prepared right now. I think it would be a better way of handling the matter than an all-out war against Islam."
We are not killing enough of them.
This is exactly right, of course, and what should have been done a decade ago. Fighting the giant squid's tentacles one at a time is wasteful - go right for the eye.
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Everyone will tell you that all we need to do is engage in a meaningful dialogue with these people, find out what they're feeling, and then apologize (ad nauseum) for everything we've done since the beginning of time.
Then, and only then, we convert to Islam and submit.
::Repogirl slapping her head a few times with lead pipe:: Sorry about that, I accidentally channeled the non-mind of a liberal for a few minutes.
I'm for scorched earth over there. Once the entire area is leveled, we build a bunch of parking garages and divvy up the oil with Israel.
You forgot to mention that Islam is a Religion of Peace!
The mullahs are the cause, the braindead zombies can be killed til hell freezes over, and the mullahs will just brainwash more.
I have many times on this board advocated against going for the hydra's tentacles one by one - we will be attrited to death and accomplish nothing.
Going for the eye of the problem - Iran - will certainly slow down the coming tsunami wave of Islam. It won't stop it forever - nothing will - (or hasn't in 1400 years) but it will slow it down.
This Christian Arab is correct in every particular - he knows his history.
However, I disagree that taking out a few mullahs or Achmedinajad (however you spell it) won't do it - there are too many thousands waiting in the wings to replace them.
What is truly different about this invasion is that it is suicidal - but has the numbers to survive this tactic. If every suicide bomber can take out several people and injure many more - they win with numbers alone.
What also sets it apart is that it is not for land or even material wealth - but for ideology which is a far more powerful impetus. If one wants land and a particular country is impervious to defeat the would be conquerors go the way of least resistence. But when the goal is ideology - then the would be conquerors aim always for the jugular. That's us - the United States of America. All else is a side show.
I like the Christian Arab's use of the word "tsunami" - that is an accurate description. A fence like Israel has constructed (or even our own border fence with Mexico) is a stopgap measure against a tidal wave. An insignificant contrivance in the larger strategic battle.
As long as we play defense - react rather than proact - we lose.
But, the rub is that our ideology will not allow us to go on offense.....and should we do it....well, look at the reaction to the war in Iraq.
Back to the word picture of "tsunami" - the left is rearranging the beach to make sure the wave comes in as unimpeded as possible.
We need more Churchills -
"They believe, and perhaps rightly so, that the West will do nothing to stop them in achieving their goals. Is history repeating itself? "
Not exactly repeating itself. You see, this time the bad guys will win. America is a shadow of her former self. We no longer have the will. We simply want to watch American Idol, and go to the mall. I'd guess fully 25% of Americans feel America is evil, and would love to see America defeated, and Americans killed, (as long as it's not their families.) I'd guess another 40% of Americans have no clue what's going on, and the MSM being in the first 25%, refuses to inform them. There's another say, 15% that's aware, but not interested enough to do anything. That leaves 20% of America to fight the enemies, and the first 25% I mentioned.
Given how quickly Europe is caving in to muslims and how weak Israel's resolve has become, I can't see us winning. It will be slow, but very sure. Our defeat is staring us in the face, and we just want to go to the mall.
Bread and Circuses. Pass the remote and get me a beer.
The Islamists mercilessly behead their prisoners; the west engages inself-loathing over snapshots of prisoners with panties on their heads.
The radical leadership of Iran openly declares its intentions to go nuclear and erase Israel and the U.S.; The U.S. seriously considers engaging Iran and Syria with diplomacy.
19 fanatics crash hijacked airliners into skyscrapers and the TSA expresses its concern over profiling passengers.
...and the slumber continues.
"the left is rearranging the beach to make sure the tsunami comes in as unimpeded as possible."
Substituting tsunami for wave and this would make a great tagline.
If you don't want to use it, may I?
"Bread and Circuses. Pass the remote and get me a beer."
I know the reference, and it's very, very applicable to America today. I see it in my own brother. As the left takes more of our freedoms under the guise of it being "good for us", he cheers. Let us try to defend ourselves, (Patriot Act), and he screams how Bush is Hitler.
My own brother... he's content to give away his freedom, so long as Idol is on... and the malls are stocked. Sadly, when the muslim takeover gains momentum, and it will, he will have neither his circus nor his bread.
******"the left is rearranging the beach to make sure the tsunami comes in as unimpeded as possible."
Substituting tsunami for wave and this would make a great tagline.
If you don't want to use it, may I?***
Please do....
See this film.
OK
What with all the beheadings, honor killings, female circumcisions and bomb-belt wearing martyrs I got a little confused!
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