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Pride of Minnesota - Do calls for retreat back home harm the troops here in Iraq?
Powerline ^ | 3/18/07

Posted on 03/18/2007 10:54:51 PM PDT by bnelson44

Do calls for retreat back home harm the troops here in Iraq?

Of course they do. The enemy, particularly Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), see these calls as proof their strategy is working and increase their attacks. Iraqis who would otherwise help us hear these calls and choose to stay in the background, fearing that they will be targets if we withdraw prematurely. And yes, we believe it affects our morale. The perception of a lack of support for our mission by members of our own government has created a sense of frustration for many soldiers.

AppealForCourage.org is a means for those soldiers to send a message to Congress that they want to stay in Iraq until the mission is complete. With no formal advertising it has already garnered over 1,500 signatures in less than a month, over half from troops who have served in theater. These currently serving military members want victory in Iraq and are respectfully asking Congress to halt calls for retreat that hurt their mission and increase the risk they face. This large response in such a short time indicates that opponents of the war do not represent the majority of the military actually fighting it.

Opponents of the war are being intellectually dishonest because they say they want to withdraw our troops but refuse to acknowledge the consequences. It is widely acknowledged that a premature withdrawal will mean an Iraq returned to dictatorial rule-after much more horrific violence than what we’ve seen- as a puppet state of either Al-Qaeda or Shiite extremists. Extremists will have access to wealth and a stable base to expand their power. It is highly naïve to assume they wouldn’t use this power to attack the democracies which threaten their way of life, particularly America. No one is pro-war, but we should be pro-victory. There is a difference between ending the war now by abandoning our Iraqi allies, suffering a humiliating defeat that will encourage future attacks on the American people we’ve sworn to protect, and ending it gradually with a stable democracy capable of defending itself.

What will victory be like? Iraq will not be a serene la-la land with children skipping down the street. It may be just as violent as today, though that’s unlikely. Victory is when the fight is led by the Iraqi military and police, not by the Coalition. Once the Iraqis are able to do the job we are currently doing, we can leave with honor, knowing we’ve helped bring freedom not just to one country, but an entire region.

We don’t all have the "big-picture" of what victory will be like, but we see the progress all around us. We hear that we’re losing the war, or the somewhat bizarre claims we’ve already lost it, and we look around us and say “What are you talking about?” We’re working to build up the Iraqi army, convincing opposition tribes to join us, building up the Iraqi police, clearing caches. Creating a professional army and a police force takes time, but the Iraqis continue to make steady progress. They have created the foundation of manpower and are now developing logistics and learning command and control. It seems like claims we’ve already lost get more frantically insistent the more progress we make. To say we are losing and should leave is as wrong as saying we’ve finished our mission and should leave.

The service members who have signed AppealForCourage.org are saying we want victory in Iraq. Yes, there is violence happening every day, and there will be many bad days ahead, but we will win this, given time. We will win because we have a plan for victory, and the enemy does not, short of hoping that we leave. We are saying we would rather go home later with victory than today in defeat. We are saying we want the war to be run by the military commanders on the ground.

Finally, we are respectfully asking Congress to support our mission. For the sake of all who have worked and sacrificed to get us this far, we hope they will listen.

LT Jason Nichols, Baghdad, Iraq

SGT Dave Thul, Al Asad, Iraq

http://AppealForCourage.org


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Minnesota; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq
http://AppealForCourage.org
1 posted on 03/18/2007 10:54:54 PM PDT by bnelson44
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To: bnelson44
Please spread the word about an appeal for redress that people in the military can sign to show support for the mission:


www.appealforcourage.org

2 posted on 03/18/2007 10:55:26 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! If you are military please sign at: http://appealforcourage.org)
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ARTICLE SNIPPET:

"Do calls for retreat back home harm the troops here in Iraq? Of course they do. The enemy, particularly Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), see these calls as proof their strategy is working and increase their attacks. Iraqis who would otherwise help us hear these calls and choose to stay in the background, fearing that they will be targets if we withdraw prematurely."

I agree.

3 posted on 03/18/2007 10:58:59 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: bnelson44

It must be remembered that those calling for retreat and surrender do NOT have will or desire to fight for American ideals and find a show of force repugnant(except when it suits their agenda).These same people look upon the U.S. as the source of all the world's ills and that we would be better off just"getting along" with those who wish to destroy us.We must support our troops,UNCONDITIONALLY or we ,as a nation,will die!


4 posted on 03/18/2007 11:07:30 PM PDT by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
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To: Cindy

I also agree. BTW, God hates a coward. These hippies are nothing but simpering little cowards, who would surrender to a ham sandwich.


5 posted on 03/18/2007 11:14:05 PM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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I would like to know what these people think is going to happen if the Muslims ever take over here...Give peace a chance is not going to sway them from stoning & beheading ..I have a feeling these sort of people will be among the 1st to go. It amazes me that people are so stupid.


6 posted on 03/18/2007 11:21:47 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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What really amazes me is that SO MANY people can be this stupid. It seems to be about 1/3 of the population.


7 posted on 03/18/2007 11:28:04 PM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: jim35

Its scary for sure....These people don't seem to have a clue that Muslims hate us. That they would make us slaves, kill us & worse...I guess they just don't want to face facts. It is easy to say make peace not war but this time they don't see what the enemy's plan for us really is. But thats just IMHO. I talk to the mom's at my bus stop and I find many are in denial because its so much easier then to have to face the facts like these terrorists may hit a school or be our bus drivers etc...


8 posted on 03/18/2007 11:36:11 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: jim35

"...simpering little cowards..." is a good description.
Anti-American is another suitable term.


9 posted on 03/18/2007 11:44:39 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: bnelson44

The democrats vote for the war, then do everything possible to undercut cheapshot and backstab everything and everyone.


10 posted on 03/19/2007 3:58:18 AM PDT by tkathy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; ...


11 posted on 03/19/2007 6:28:39 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! If you are military please sign at: http://appealforcourage.org)
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12 posted on 03/19/2007 6:34:09 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! If you are military please sign at: http://appealforcourage.org)
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Thanks!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1803035/posts?page=15#15


13 posted on 03/19/2007 8:31:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: bnelson44
I agree with all the good Lt. had to say. But in some ways, a false sense of hope by AQIR for instance shall urge them to expose themselves a bit more openly. And every time they do that. Bingo. They end up dead. One way or another the Iraq/US/Coalition forces along with the newly recruited tribal groups must eliminate many thousands of goons in the next few months, and onward.
The insurgents of all forms are a finite force. They continue to loss all their forms of warfare, bomb making factories etc., as they get exposed.
Likewise there is just so much ordnance left in Iraq. Huge amounts has been detected and destroyed thus far.
They are on the losing side of history.
14 posted on 03/19/2007 6:36:54 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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