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Treating gun owners like sex offenders in the name of "sunshine"
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/007050.htm ^ | 3/13/2007 | agitate

Posted on 03/13/2007 1:50:26 PM PDT by Agitate

Treating gun owners like sex offenders in the name of "sunshine" By Michelle Malkin · March 13, 2007 09:45 AM

Shame on the Roanoke Times.

Last Sunday, its columnist Christian Trejbal published an online database of registered concealed handgun permit holders in the New River Valley under the sanctimonious guise of "Sunshine Week:"

Today is the start of Sunshine Week, the annual week in which we reflect on the importance of open government and public records. To mark the occasion, I want to take you on an excursion into freedom of information land. We're going to find out who in the New River Valley has a concealed handgun permit.

I can hear the shocked indignation of gun-toters already: It's nobody's business but mine if I want to pack heat.

Au contraire. Because the government handles the permitting, it is everyone's business.

There are good reasons the records are open to public scrutiny. People might like to know if their neighbors carry. Parents might like to know if a member of the car pool has a pistol in the glove box. Employers might like to know if employees are bringing weapons to the office.

And all Virginians have a stake in checking that their government is not making mistakes, for example, by issuing permits to convicted felons. Open records allow the media or any private citizen to check.

Trejbal denied that exposing concealed carry permit holders was "about being for or against guns." But he exposed his true agenda when he compared law-abiding gun owners to...sex offenders:

A state that eagerly puts sex offender data online complete with an interactive map could easily do the same with gun permits, but it does not...

(Excerpt) Read more at roanoke.com ...


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To: SIDENET

The original net article had a list of the NAME AND ADDRESSES of all CCW holders in the Roanoke, Va area, including cops, local judges, and city council members. Those holders went absolutely berzerk. Every lawyer in town is sharpening their knives to carve a piece out of this yardbird's hide, and the rag he works(ed?) for.


21 posted on 03/13/2007 2:34:48 PM PDT by jonascord ("Don't shoot 'em! Let 'em burn!...")
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To: Egon
A state that eagerly puts sex offender data online complete with an interactive map could easily do the same with gun permits, but it does not...

Christian Trejbal and other sex offenders obviously feel unfair treatment. He wants to be able to go out and buy a permit to commit sex offenses instead of committing them surreptitiously.

22 posted on 03/13/2007 2:40:10 PM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: Yo-Yo

No bomb at editorial writer's home
By Donna Alvis-Banks and Paul Dellinger

UPDATED 4:18 p.m.

The mysterious package that was delivered today to Roanoke Times editorial writer Christian Trejbal's home and prompted the closing of a Christiansburg street turned out to be full of blank mailing labels and cardboard mailers.

School Lane was closed, a state police bomb squad was called and at least some neighbors were evacuated after Trejbal, who attracted a deluge of criticism with a column about concealed carry firearms permits, found the package during a lunch-time trip home. Trejbal has received threats in the wake of his Sunday column, which celebrated open government and public records and was accompanied by an online database listing the about 135,000 Virginians who are licensed to carry concealed firearms. The information is available to anyone who inquires at county courthouses, or can be obtained on a statewide basis from Richmond.

http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/breaking/wb/108505

They seem to be a tad bit edgy, lol.


23 posted on 03/13/2007 2:49:10 PM PDT by TexasBeth
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To: flashbunny

Sounds good to me.


24 posted on 03/13/2007 3:01:26 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Egon

In the same spirit of openness, somebody needs to post the arrest records and medical records of every employee of the Roanoke Times. I want made publicly known every drunk driver and every editor with Herpes. While we are at it, let's publish who failed to pay child support and who failed to repay their student loans.

We are sheep. The "right" to carry a firearm is no longer a right and has been made a "privelege" because some genertation before mine gave that right away a long time ago. If you need a piece of paper to exercise a right, then it isn't a right. I don't need a permit to speak.

Stinking bastards at the Roanoke Times. I hope everyone cancels their subscriptions.


25 posted on 03/13/2007 3:07:09 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: jonascord

Yeah, I just saw that. Disgusting. I hope that the paper and that louse reporter are sued to oblivion.


26 posted on 03/13/2007 3:10:36 PM PDT by SIDENET (Now selling carbon offsets. Get some today!)
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To: TexasBeth
Appears DHL was trying to tell him, he might consider the volume of mail coming his way.

The box was full of blank mailers and labels from shipping company DHL. Wendy Parmalee of DHL's Blacksburg office said the box sounded like something that went to new customers and she was not sure why it was delivered to Trejbal.

27 posted on 03/13/2007 3:11:21 PM PDT by patton (In spit of it all...)
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To: TexasBeth

Sounds more like he's trying to establish a basis for a claim of victimhood!


28 posted on 03/13/2007 3:18:45 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Egon
Last Sunday, its columnist Christian Trejbal published an online database of registered concealed handgun permit holders in the New River Valley under the sanctimonious guise of "Sunshine Week:"

This only partially correct. It was a list of all of the concealed handgun permit holders in the state. all 135,000 + of us.

29 posted on 03/13/2007 3:20:13 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: SIDENET
Oops. They didn't release the addresses of gun owners. They released their names. It's still rotten.

Oh yes they did! Name and street address of record.

30 posted on 03/13/2007 3:22:03 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Egon

Already here. Lawful gun owners in Massachusetts must register with the Massachusetts Criminal History System Board and may not move without notifying the state. Liberals get a big yuk out of this.


31 posted on 03/13/2007 3:22:18 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Egon

So will the same editor publish the names of people with AIDs who've been treated at government hospitals?

Or people who've had abortions...or is this new "sunshine" policy only about the Right while keeping the Left in the dark?


32 posted on 03/13/2007 3:24:56 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: patton; TexasBeth
The box was full of blank mailers and labels from shipping company DHL. Wendy Parmalee of DHL's Blacksburg office said the box sounded like something that went to new customers and she was not sure why it was delivered to Trejbal.

Just brilliant! I bow to the master (whoever he or she may be!)

33 posted on 03/13/2007 3:27:31 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (¡El proletariado del mundo, une! - Xuygo Chavez)
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To: Egon
The surviving thread is here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1799928/posts and includes a link in one of the posts to the Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL).

Note that the paper never said they had permanently pulled the database which allows one to search by last name and city for permit holders and gives their address and date of permit/expiration date, as well as other info.

They only 'pulled it to verify its accuracy'.

Keep in mind that in the northern part of the state, close to D.C., there are people in a variety of professions who relate to our National Security who may have permits and who may not generally make their street addresses known.

If anyone had been paying attention, these people, as well as those who may have been hiding from a range of threats such as gangs, terrorist organizations, rabid ex spouses, stalkers, etc. may have had their home's location compromised. Not to mention the fact that every person in the database who has been researched is now a known gunowner and a potential target for everything from daylight burglary to liberal crackpots.

34 posted on 03/13/2007 3:33:10 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: mountainlyons
"If gun control had any positive effect, then why are the cities that take away peoples rights for protection of the masses are become the killing fields of the nation?"

That's because gun control isn't about public safety: It's advocating for criminals pure and simple. Not one of those anti-freedom groups pushes for harder sentences and reduced appeals on criminals, not one.
35 posted on 03/13/2007 3:41:07 PM PDT by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: Yo-Yo

Looks as if it is lawsuit time again in the deep south.


36 posted on 03/13/2007 4:06:07 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Yo-Yo

Damn!
By the time I posted my response, trajbal cut off any more comments (I bet the skode hadn't planned on the firestorm he ignited!) without prior "approval".


37 posted on 03/13/2007 4:35:07 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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FAGGOT
Christian Trejbal
SPAM ME!
38 posted on 03/13/2007 4:40:50 PM PDT by 10mm
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To: Smokin' Joe

It appears that the list included things like the home address of the Chief Justice of the VA State Supreme Court.

I imagine that is a legal issue for the paper.


39 posted on 03/13/2007 4:59:33 PM PDT by patton (In spit of it all...)
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To: Egon
Parents might like to know if a member of the car pool has a pistol in the gove box.

True. They might also want to know if the guy driving is a homosexual. Some parents of girls don't want them alone with a man; similarly, parents of boys might not want them alone with a gay man. Since the default is heterosexual, it's obvious (using the editor's logic) that homosexuals need to register with the state and those records made public. A website would be a nice touch, too.

40 posted on 03/13/2007 6:56:25 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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