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Rearming - The D.C. gun ban gets overruled.
National Review Online ^ | March 12, 2007 | Symposium

Posted on 03/12/2007 11:27:12 AM PDT by neverdem







Rearming
The D.C. gun ban gets overruled.

By Symposium

A D.C. circuit court threw out the District of Columbia’s three-decades-old gun ban on Friday. In the wake of the Parker v. District of Columbia ruling, National Review Online asked a group of Second Amendment experts to assess its legal and political significance.


Randy Barnett
When discussing with my wife the Supreme Court justices’ possible reaction to the Parker case, she observed that “it would be really exciting if they followed the Constitution.” Indeed! But I predict they won’t hear the case. True, the federal circuits now disagree about the original meaning of the Second Amendment. But there is no “circuit split” on the constitutionality of either the D.C. statute or a comparable federal statute banning all hand guns. The constitutionality of state statutes, such as have been upheld in other circuits, is complicated by the need to apply the Fourteenth Amendment, so those precedents are legally distinct. Further, because Solicitor General Paul Clement may well agree with the majority’s interpretation of the Second Amendment, as does the current Justice Department, he may oppose granting Cert. Given that even liberal justices have long ducked this issue in the past, it would be very risky for them to take it up now that the Court is more conservative, textualist, and originalist. Of course, the case could be reversed en banc by the D.C. Circuit, but again I doubt it. Unlike the protection of an unenumerated right that makes judicial conservatives nervous — like the right to life at issue in Abigail Alliance — the proposition that the Second Amendment protects an enumerated individual right applicable to the federal government unites originalist-inclined judges, whether conservative or libertarian. Moreover, that Judge Silberman is highly respected, his opinion is powerfully reasoned, and the dissenting opinion is astonishingly weak, all argue against an en banc review. But wouldn’t it be exciting if . . . ?

Randy E. Barnett is Carmack Waterhouse Professor of Legal Theory at Georgetown University Law Center.


John C. Eastman

For the better part of a century, the Second Amendment has been the poor stepchild of the Bill of Rights, almost as infrequently litigated as the Third Amendment’s prohibition on the quartering of troops. And the rights revolution that took hold in the 1960s, finding rights to all sorts of things not explicit in the Constitution, completely ignored the Second Amendment’s explicit right to keep and bear arms.

Last Friday, that changed. The D.C. Circuit, in an opinion written by Judge Silberman, held that the Second Amendment actually protects a personal right to keep firearms in one’s home for purposes of self defense. Almost every federal circuit court of appeals has now weighed in on the subject, so it is hard to imagine how the split of opinion that has now developed is not finally headed to the Supreme Court.

Judge Silberman knows that, of course, so his opinion is a masterful treatise on the subject. More than just a provision of the Bill of Rights, Judge Silberman rightly recognizes that the Second Amendment, like its sister amendments, does not confer a right but rather recognizes a natural right inherent in our humanity. In this, he is following no less an authority than the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the “right of the people” to alter or abolish their government whenever it becomes destructive of the ends for which it was legitimately organized, namely, the securing of unalienable rights. So the Second Amendment protects not just self-defense, but also the right to throw off tyranny, if that becomes necessary. Mr. Jefferson will now join Mr. Madison on this trip to the Supreme Court—let’s hope the distinguished justices hear them well.

— John C. Eastman is interim associate dean of administration and Henry Salvatori Professor of Law & Community Service at Chapman University’s School of Law and director of the Claremont Institute’s Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence.

Cam Edwards
Wayne LaPierre, the executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, called the ruling “a crack in the door for residents in the District of Columbia to join the rest of the country in enjoying full constitutional freedom.” I think that’s an accurate statement. The District plans on appealing this ruling, so it’s too early to declare the return of the 2nd Amendment to Washington, D.C., but it is a major step forward.

From a political standpoint, Friday’s ruling may have an impact on legislation in the Senate. I think many people around the country were unaware of how draconian D.C.’s gun ban really is until they heard of the decision last week. It’s likely that we’ll soon see the introduction of a bill in the Senate to repeal the District’s gun prohibition, and the increased awareness of the gun laws in D.C. could make this a high-priority, high-visibility piece of legislation for months to come.

— Cam Edwards is host of Cam and Company on NRAnews.com.


Alan Gura

If gun prohibitionists’ reactions to Parker are any indication — and they are — the decision’s legal implications will be profound. Parker poses no threat to the government’s ability to regulate firearms in ordinary fashion. Children may still be barred from accessing guns, and instant criminal background checks for gun purchases are likely here to stay. But gone are the prospects for broad gun bans, as well as the gun “control” program of incremental regulatory harassment of the right to arms to the point of rendering the right impossible to exercise. After Parker, asserting a policy preference against gun ownership will not suffice. Gun regulations can no longer be adopted without consideration of the individual right.

The laws struck down in Parker are not politically viable in this country. Gun prohibitionists shield their mission with euphemisms such as “common sense gun control,” because most people agree with the generalized notion that governments have some means of regulating guns. But if the D.C. laws’ actual details are explained to voters, they will reject anyone who thinks such laws reflect “common sense.” Parker deprives gun prohibitionists of their “common sense” veneer by compelling them to defend the indefensible. Successful politicians will distance themselves accordingly.

— Alan Gura is the lead counsel for the plaintiffs in Parker v. District of Columbia.


Dave Kopel
Although Parker is unlikely to lead to very many gun laws being declared unconstitutional in the next few years, the long-term effect will help shape the rights consciousness of the American public. The more that the right to arms is discussed in schools, the media, and elsewhere as a genuine, meaningful right, the more that public opinion (and, eventually, judicial opinion) will turn against repressive but non-prohibitory gun laws.

The American gun-prohibition movement will have to rely more heavily on non-American assets. For example, last August, a subcommission of the United Nations Human Rights Council announced that all nations were required by international human rights law to enact severe gun controls — so severe that the current laws of New York City and Washington, D.C. (for long guns) are not sufficiently repressive. The international Arms Trade Treaty currently being created by the United Nations may provide a major opportunity.

In light of how enthusiastically President Bill Clinton’s administration supported earlier stages of U.N. gun control, it is likely that any Democratic administration (except, perhaps, one led by President Bill Richardson) would take advantage of the many ways in which international law can be imported into the United States without need for legislative approval.

Dave Kopel is research director of the Independence Institute.


John R. Lott Jr.
For several decades, D.C.’s gun ban has served an important educational purpose. With the nation’s strictest gun-control laws, gun-control advocates have been embarrassed that the city has frequently had the highest murder rate of any large city in the U.S. This was hardly the case prior to the ban. Yet, the D.C. Circuit Court striking down the ban will prove just as embarrassing because the long predicted surge in violent crime will not occur.

Surely the ban cannot be blamed for all the District’s crime problems. The police department has had severe problems over hiring standards as well as management and morale issues.

But the long-term changes in crime rates before and after the ban are difficult to ignore. In the five years before Washington’s ban in 1976, the murder rate fell from 37 to 27 per 100,000. In the five years after it went into effect, the murder rate rose back up to 35. During this same time, robberies fell from 1,514 to 1,003 per 100,000 and then rose by over 63 percent, up to 1,635. The five-year trends are not some aberration. In fact, while murder rates have varied over time, during the 30 years since the ban, the murder rate has only once fallen below what it was in 1976.

D.C.’s experience strongly suggests that gun bans disarm only law-abiding citizens while leaving criminals free to prey on the populace.

John R. Lott Jr. is the author of More Guns, Less Crime and The Bias Against Guns.


Nelson Lund
If the Supreme Court affirms the ruling that invalidated D.C.’s ban on keeping handguns in the home, the direct effects on people’s lives will be modest. Assuming the Second Amendment holding is extended to cover state as well as federal laws, a few other cities with similar restrictions will have to give their citizens a little of their freedom back. But the courts will undoubtedly continue to uphold the vast majority of less restrictive gun regulations. And the potentially most controversial issues — such as sharp restrictions on the right to carry guns outside the home — might not be resolved definitively for a very long time.

A ruling that instead upheld the D.C. statute would send a chilling message about the current Supreme Court. If D.C.’s draconian statute is considered constitutional, it’s hard to imagine how the Second Amendment could have any meaning at all. Furthermore, this is an area with virtually no constraining precedents, so the Justices won’t have the usual excuse for ignoring the Constitution. Legally, this is a very easy case, and the Court can go wrong only if it uses sophistry to paper over a surrender to political correctness. If that happens, we’ll lose more than the Second Amendment.

Nelson Lund is the Patrick Henry Professor of Constitutional Law and the Second Amendment at George Mason University School of Law.


Clark Neily
I subscribe to the currently unfashionable view that the Founding Fathers envisioned a sea of liberty with islands of government power — not the reverse. It is my hope that the Parker lawsuit will not only vindicate the right of law-abiding citizens to possess functional firearms in their homes, but that it will remind conservatives, in particular, about the excesses of majoritarianism and the critical role of judges in combating it.

As a constitutional litigator, I am troubled by the ascendancy of so-called “judicial minimalism” among both liberal and conservative jurists. Following the Supreme Court’s appalling Kelo decision, for example, it was dismaying to see conservative bloggers like Jonathan Adler and John Hinderaker (and even the iconic Judge Alex Kozinski) supporting the liberal justices’ view that courts should interpret the public use clause of the Fifth Amendment as imposing no meaningful limits on government’s power to redistribute private property.

In federal courts today, there is a presumption of government power, not liberty. I think that’s exactly backwards. Many conservatives will embrace Parker because it vindicates a freedom they hold dear. If it reacquaints them with the important role of judges in protecting liberty and containing government power, so much the better.

Clark Neily is an attorney at a Washington, D.C.-area public interest law firm. In his private capacity he is co-counsel for the plaintiffs in Parker v. District of Columbia.



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1 posted on 03/12/2007 11:27:16 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
the proposition that the Second Amendment protects an enumerated individual right applicable to the federal government

That's two...

2 posted on 03/12/2007 11:35:04 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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It's nice to see that for once a judge realizes, and states, The Bill Of Rights merely states existing rights that all people are born with, and that the Federal Givernment doesn't grant these rights, they're job is to protect them.

Maybe there's hope for this country yet...


3 posted on 03/12/2007 11:58:01 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: neverdem

DC residents need not bother running down to their neighborhood gun store. There is no neighborhood gun store, in any hood, neighbor. Unless of course one has no qualms about shopping at one of the many uptown unlicensed tailgate firearms boutiques, or making a straw purchse from a "friend" in Virginia.


4 posted on 03/12/2007 12:16:41 PM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: bikerMD

Does this mean we can pack heat at the rally this weekend?


5 posted on 03/12/2007 12:19:08 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: LetsRok

How long will it take DC to honor my VA conceal/carry permit?


6 posted on 03/12/2007 12:20:04 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: LetsRok

Only if we all do it and that won't happen.


7 posted on 03/12/2007 12:27:40 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is time to stop the left at the wall.)
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To: neverdem

What's Rudy's take on this decision?


9 posted on 03/12/2007 12:59:28 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Naming CVNs after congressmen and mediocre presidents burns my butt)
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To: LetsRok

No.

People are blowing this out of proportion.
The ruling only addresses licensing for possession, unlocked, in one's home, in DC.

You can't bring yours to DC.
You can't carry in DC, resident or not.

This sets powerful precident for overturning a great many prohibitions, but those will have to be addressed in court individually. If you were indeed to carry in DC and got caught, you'd have a chance at a successful defense - but you'd be incarcerated first.

BTW:
SCOTUS can avoid the issue (regardless of all the "take it to SCOTUS flagwaving"), as there is no split yet - it only tossed one law applicable only in DC.
The next step is to use this as a logical basis for tossing 922(o) nationwide, and create a SCOTUS-unavoidable split.


10 posted on 03/12/2007 1:19:02 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: neverdem

The District's three decades of gun control have worked so well as they have one of the highest murder and gun crime rates in the country.


11 posted on 03/12/2007 1:20:57 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Honestly, I think there's a possibility that Rudy is educable on this issue, and that he may take this opportunity to reflect on wisdom of these judges, and begin a public shift in he position. When push comes to shove, Rudy hates crime and criminals, and is opposed to anything that helps them.

He grew up with the NYC mentality that anyone walking around the city with a gun must be a criminal (because 99% of the time that was true in NYC), and actually had a quite a bit of success at cutting the crime rate by his "nail 'em for the little stuff" policy, which tended to result in murderers and rapists getting arrested for jumping subway turnstiles, and then identified as people who were wanted for serious crimes, and also resulted in the younger set starting to get the notion that if even 'little" crimes could get you arrested and locked up for a while, big crimes were probably a really big deal. Amazingly, that notion simply didn't exist in the decades preceding Rudy's terms as mayor. There was so much major crime, the police felt they couldn't be bothered with "little" crime when there was so much big stuff to deal with, and the criminal class knew from experience that a little mugging here and there wasn't going to get them in any serious trouble.

Rudy knows the gun issue is a problem for his Presidential aspirations, and like any human being, is no doubt looking for ways to rationalize a shift -- both to himself and to voters. The combination of this exceptionally well-phrased ruling, and the fact that DC's draconian gun ban had clearly not made the slightest dent in its crime rate, could well provide him with an opening.


12 posted on 03/12/2007 3:54:55 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The combination of this exceptionally well-phrased ruling, and the fact that DC's draconian gun ban had clearly not made the slightest dent in its crime rate, could well provide him with an opening.

Interesting analysis. Guess we'll see. His current 2nd Amendment position certainly taints him in my eyes.

13 posted on 03/12/2007 5:55:34 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Naming CVNs after congressmen and mediocre presidents burns my butt)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Yes, we'll see. His 2A problem is my chief objection to him (that, and that he's too comfortable with socialist government programs, but we won't be seeing any viable candidates who meet my standards on THAT issue). He is a law and order guy, and his policies in NYC did more crime reduction than I expect to see in DC even if it goes to "Vermont carry" tomorrow. Arming citizens is great, but if you don't also lock up the criminals BEFORE they shoot and kill/maim innocent citizens, you still end up with a whole lot of dead/maimed citizens.

Frankly, Rudy made NYC a safer place to reintroduce full 2A gun rights, but there's still a long way to go. There's a certain reality check that needs to be done by 2A absolutists, re the real state of affairs on the ground in cities like NYC (where I live Mon-Fri). Yes, if 2A rights had been fully protected from the get-go, the situation never would have deteriorated to the point where violent criminals control large swathes of the city and even the insides of many public high schools and middle schools. But even after Rudy's law-and-order crackdown in NYC, many parts of it are still not under civilized control -- a big improvement from when almost no parts of it were under civilized control, to be sure, but still problematic enough that people who envision total elimination of gun control laws being promptly followed by a bloodbath in the streets aren't being completely unreasonable. Most law-abiding New Yorkers don't have a clue how to operate a gun (and aren't really interested in learning), very few own guns, and many can't afford to run out and buy one. Meanwhile, all the violent gangs, Mafia, etc. know full well how to use guns, can afford as many as they want, and will greatly increase the rate at which they carry and use them, once the threat of being arrested and "doing time" just for being caught carrying is taken away. Many of them are experienced criminals, but still have no criminal record (or at least no adult record), and so there would be no way to even legally interfere with their purchasing and carrying guns. And they would quickly learn how to stage "self-defense" killings, with pre-fab witnesses, and similar scams.

This is the reality that Rudy faced during his entire career as prosecutor, and then as mayor in NYC. He's not responsible for the fact that the courts (supported by federal courts and their dubious Constitutional interpretations) have been letting violent criminals back out on the streets routinely, for decades. He did his best, both as prosecutor and mayor, to curtail that. But he was still stuck with nonsense like "Miranda rights" -- sure, everybody knows Thug A shot and killed the bodega clerk, but the police forgot to read him his "rights" in time, so he gets off scot-free, and heads back to the streets for a repeat performance. He knew he was in no position to overrule the federal and state supreme courts, so he went about trying to cut violent crime within the system he was stuck with, and that system was supportive of any and all infringements on the 2A. It sucks, but I know the guy was between a rock and hard place, and unfortunately, that biased-in-favor-of-criminals philosophy still pervades most courts across the nation, though to a somewhat lesser extent than in the 70s and 80s.


14 posted on 03/12/2007 8:21:22 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

You listed the key issue in your post:
"Most law-abiding New Yorkers don't have a clue how to operate a gun (and aren't really interested in learning), very few own guns, and many can't afford to run out and buy one."

KEWL! Let 'em bleed, then. If a whimp, or a whimpess, refuses to arm themselves - that refusal in absolutely no way creates a right for the whimp, or whimpess, to demand that other citizens be stripped of their 2nd Amendment rights.

Still less, does the whimp/whimpess have the right to strip visitors of their 2nd Amendment rights when they have to go to the Big Sh*tty on business.

Cowardice is no excuse to violate your fellow American's rights - unless you are some Democratic scum living in the Big Sh*tty.


15 posted on 03/12/2007 9:03:52 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: GladesGuru

LOL.. I love the Big Sh%#ty remark.


16 posted on 03/12/2007 9:17:13 PM PDT by therut
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To: therut

Thank you!


17 posted on 03/13/2007 4:32:37 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: GladesGuru

It's not really matter of "refusal". It's a socio-political reality. While I'd certainly support aggressive measures to change it, it does need to be factored into any serious proposals re when and how to eliminate the laundry list of unconstitutional gun laws in NYC (and to a great extent in NY State as a whole). If all the gun laws are suddenly eliminated one day, a huge bloodbath in which lots of innocent people get killed quickly ensued, all that will be achieved is to create a dangerous political groundswell of anti-gun sentiment. There IS a mechanism for amending the Constitution, and we need to be careful not to let the critical mass of citizens needed to accomplish that become inclined to wipe out the 2nd Amendment.


18 posted on 03/13/2007 5:21:43 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

The scenario you described was the basis for a novel called DON'T TREAD ON ME. In it, a BATF official wanted to boost his agency funding, so he set up a shooting at a stadium, and an unanticipated stampede occurred.

The ensuing loss of life caused a Democratic President to act out his gun grabber fantasies. He learned the hard way that Americans won't give up their guns, adn that given the number of long range rifles (millions of 'em) tht any government that the citizenry opposes CAN kill enough government officials to cause that government to change its behavior.

That is just what the Founders wanted.

Fear not. America is armed, and the Constitution WILL be defended. I am sure that even Nancy Pelosi is aware of this most basic of facts about America.

She knows what that Japanese officer said during interrogation after WW II, regarding why Japan never invaded after Pearl Harbor - "Behind every blade of grass is a rifle".

True then, true now.

That's why the UN crowd wants to ban small arms.


19 posted on 03/13/2007 6:49:12 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: GladesGuru
I am sure that even Nancy Pelosi is aware of this most basic of facts about America.

Nutcase Nancy? I am afraid it does not matter what NN knows. IMO NN will spew the commie line and hop in the sack with the "Bring Back the Ban" clan.

20 posted on 03/13/2007 10:52:34 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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