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To: Congressman Billybob

Let's pretend that I'm starting to understand this stuff.

Until SCOTUS actually takes up these cases, this ruling only applies to the DC area. And the Texas ruling would only apply in that Circuit area. And those of us in California are still stuck with the 9th Circus ruling.

Did I get it right?


185 posted on 03/09/2007 9:49:03 AM PST by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: SmithL
Did I get it right?

Yes. Court cases only apply within their jurisdictions - not beyond.

That the two cases result in different RKBA results from the rest of the country creates an "equal protection" problem which only SCOTUS can resolve (and will likely find the narrowest possible, and thus very unpalatable, solution to).

202 posted on 03/09/2007 9:58:14 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: SmithL
Until SCOTUS actually takes up these cases, this ruling only applies to the DC area.


All this does is overturn the DC law. No effect anywhere else on other laws.

But there is likely to be granted a "stay" inevitably requested by the DC government goons, pending the inevitable appeal.

That means that even though a court has ruled otherwise, DC cops will toss people in jail for having handguns in their homes, and DC courts will happily sentence them to prison.
207 posted on 03/09/2007 10:02:04 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: SmithL
You got it precisely right. That's why the SC should have taken the Emerson case a year ago, to eliminate the conflict among the Circuit Courts. It didn't, and the conflict will stay there until the SC takes a case and settles the issue.

I would hope that either Justice Ginsburg or Justice Stevens are gone and replaced by a new Bush appointee before that happens. Right now, I worry about the outcome of that SC case if Justice Kennedy is the "swing" vote. If Bush makes a new appointment -- confirmed by the Senate or as a recess appointment -- in the mold of Alito and Roberts, I would not worry about the outcome of that case.

John / Billybob

344 posted on 03/09/2007 11:50:54 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Please get involved: www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: SmithL
Until SCOTUS actually takes up these cases, this ruling only applies to the DC area. And the Texas ruling would only apply in that Circuit area. And those of us in California are still stuck with the 9th Circus ruling.

You got it. The 5th Circuit ruling may, may that is, have only been dicta, not necessary to reach the result the court applied. They ruled against Emerson, who was in violation of the "domestic violence misdemeanor gun ban. They did rule the second protects an individual right, but that the Lautenberg amendment did not violate that right. Personally I think they were setting up a situation where the Supreme Court would hear the appeal, due to differences among the circuits, but in the end the SC did not hear the appeal, instead refusing to hear the appeal.

Now we have a clear difference, with no question of dicta, between the circuits, which should induce the Supremes to take on the case.

861 posted on 03/10/2007 2:29:48 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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