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You Rudy folks should really, really heed what this article is saying...
1 posted on 03/06/2007 5:39:39 PM PST by markomalley
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Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action, gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, school prayer, tuition tax credits, liberal immigration policies, and he's reinforced it, time and time again. Just about everytime Rudy opens his mouth, offensive liberal words come pouring out. As Mayor, Rudy put liberals in high-paid city jobs, an indication what a Rudy WH would look like. Here then is Rudy in his own words:

--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992

--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989

--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett

--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997

--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
The Real Rudy Giuliani:

From Human Events:

Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance

As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:

"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.

I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...

Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.

Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."

Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999

It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?

Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.

An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate

In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.

Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.

Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?

344 posted on 03/06/2007 9:57:27 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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Soft on Gay Marriage

Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.

Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:

His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."

Here's more from the New York Daily News:

"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."

Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.Pro-Illegal Immigration

As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:

"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."

That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:

"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."

If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.

CLICK HERE TO READ MORE OF GIULIANI'S LEFT-WING POLITICAL POSITIONS

345 posted on 03/06/2007 9:58:03 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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"The United States has built the first abortion businesses in both Afghanistan and Iraq, ever. Shamefully, our taxes paid to build and operate a Baghdad abortion clinic that is said to get most of its customers because of the pervasive rape problem in that male-dominated society. And that happened under a pro-life president. What would a pro-abortion president do?"

Utterly appalling and deeply shocking.

348 posted on 03/06/2007 10:01:07 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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They are saying that the next GOP presidential candidate might very well be a pro-abortion

Who are 'They'? The Commie liberal left?

I think 'they' are trying to tell us that we need a liberal to beat a liberal.

I reckon them polls are about as right as the polls that said Coward Dean would be the Demoratic nominee in '04. When that didn't pan out, the polls said Kohn Kerry would be our President.

I say 'they' are full of horsehockey. I think we can beat Hillaryous, Hussein, or any other Gorish candidate the Commie left throws at us.

I think they are trying to scare us into believing we need a liberal to beat a liberal.

I am not going to fall for it. I am going to stand my ground and fight for my right to bear arms.

I am going to stand my ground and fight for the babies right to breath air. Maybe not clean air, but air baby! If I don't, who will?

What Party will be there for the babies, our guns, and God in public view?

We are it. Let's stand our ground and fight. We are not the Party that cuts and runs.
359 posted on 03/06/2007 10:14:27 PM PST by do the dhue (DEM ARE RATS!!!!!)
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Pinged from Terri Dailies

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394 posted on 03/07/2007 3:48:39 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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I was not going to vote for him until 2 days ago when Rush played about 6 Hillary sound bites and the MSM followed up with another several sound/video bites of Hillary. That was all it took for me to realize I can't not vote against Hillary.


405 posted on 03/07/2007 4:57:24 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”)
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You anti-Rudy folks should consider the next 8 years of the Clinton Presidency...and grow up.


410 posted on 03/07/2007 5:14:12 AM PST by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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Another one issue selfish person.


415 posted on 03/07/2007 5:29:22 AM PST by Fawn (http://www.hartzvictims.org/)
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You Rudy folks should really, really heed what this article is saying...

Your right. Hillary will do a lot more for the cause.


430 posted on 03/07/2007 6:39:07 AM PST by DOGEY
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This is why we have no real choices during elections. This is why many people do not vote. Why?

1) The Electoral College is a failed system and must be changed or done away with so that the candidate will be forced to espouse the principles of his true constituents.
2) The party gate keepers have relaxed the constraints placed upon any candidate seeking the Republican ticket. They should be booted out. OR...
3) If this continues to happen, you will see a new Conservative Party rise to the occasion since the GOP has been high-jacked. Yes, a third party! You heard right. NOT independent, but CONSERVATIVE.
4) We need a national referendum on serious societal issues such as immigration, gays, abortion, term limits, pardons, and electoral processes. This way it can get a little closer to being of, by and for the people.
The Left has gone Marxist and the Right has gone Liberal. Why is being Liberal considered progress or a move foreword? Some of you in here are PC and multicultural Liberals pretending to be conservative with a wet noodle for a spine. Offended? Then that means you.
432 posted on 03/07/2007 6:43:07 AM PST by SQUID
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Laura Ingrahm is just finished reaing this article on the air.


449 posted on 03/07/2007 8:16:02 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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The president can not make or repeal any law affecting abortion.

Ronald Reagan didn't and no one else will either.

It's up to Congress.

It amazes me how many people don't know how the system works.
465 posted on 03/07/2007 10:06:07 AM PST by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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We also see the downside of Rudy’s deal. If pro-lifers went along, we’d soon find out that a pro-abortion Republican president would no longer preside over a pro-life party. The power a president exerts over his party’s character is nearly absolute. The party is changed in his image. He picks those who run it and, both directly and indirectly, those who enter it.

Exactly. Which is why I personally will NEVER vote for a pro-abortion Republican for president, no matter how bad his opponent is.

With a radical pro-abort like Rudy as the GOP standard bearer, pro-lifers are effectively left out in the cold with nowhere to look but perhaps to a 3rd party.
470 posted on 03/07/2007 10:16:37 AM PST by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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These pro-Rudy RINOs don't want Catholics, don't want pro-Lifers, don't want social or religious conservatives in the republican party. However when they lose (AND THEY WILL!)Then it'll all be the fault of the real conservatives for being "too pure". Funny, we want more candidates who are more pure, they want republican voters who are more pure. Who are the real purists?


494 posted on 03/07/2007 4:33:52 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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Why? Abortion is the law right now. Some of us don't think it's the most important issue at this juncture. If you do, FINE. But by supporting Rudy, I think you know that. So go do what you have to and leave us alone. In fact, go start your own party....


496 posted on 03/07/2007 4:37:24 PM PST by Hildy (RINO=RUDY IS NUMBER ONE)
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Vote Duncan Hunter.

Pro-life, anti-illegal invaders, pro-Second Amendment, pro-America in internatiopnal trade, and a man with a strong military background.


531 posted on 03/08/2007 6:46:30 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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Thanks for posting this article. Laura read this article on her show this past Tuesday, and I missed hearing who had written it so couldn't find the article. I do not dislike Rudy as a person, but this article expresses my feelings exactly. I will not vote for Rudy, and I do not believe he would win the nomination. When it comes to the Primary Election, those who are still in the race may be very different. And if the "top three" do end up being Rudy, McCain, and Romney, I believe Romney would win the nomination.


542 posted on 03/09/2007 7:05:22 AM PST by seekthetruth
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