Posted on 02/28/2007 9:56:17 AM PST by Peach
Not since Teddy Roosevelt took on Tammany Hall a century ago has a New York politician closely linked to urban reform looked like presidential timber. But today ex–New York mayor Rudy Giuliani sits at or near the top of virtually every poll of potential 2008 presidential candidates. Already, Giuliani’s popularity has set off a “stop Rudy” movement among cultural conservatives, who object to his three marriages and his support for abortion rights, gay unions, and curbs on gun ownership. Some social conservatives even dismiss his achievement in reviving New York before 9/11.
An August story on the website Right Wing News, for instance, claims that Giuliani governed Gotham from “left of center.” Similarly, conservatives have been feeding the press a misleading collection of quotations by and about Giuliani, on tax policy and school choice issues, assembled to make him look like a liberal.
But in a GOP presidential field in which cultural and religious conservatives may find something to object to in every candidate who could really get nominated (and, more important, elected), Giuliani may be the most conservative candidate on a wide range of issues. Far from being a liberal, he ran New York with a conservative’s priorities: government exists above all to keep people safe in their homes and in the streets, he said, not to redistribute income, run a welfare state, or perform social engineering.
The private economy, not government, creates opportunity, he argued; government should just deliver basic services well and then get out of the private sector’s way. He denied that cities and their citizens were victims of vast forces outside their control, and he urged New Yorkers to take personal responsibility for their lives.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26604
This Republican and Conservative doesn't feel welcome at all. Since I support Rudy, my comments are not worth a dime to some of these folks. What I really find amusing are the people I have told to leave me alone and they keep pinging me but I keep ignoring. At least right now, the rules don't have it so that Rudy supporters have to answer every ping. Maybe by tomorrow that will be a new rule but talking gutter trash is becoming more and more prevalent as the days go by as witnessed last night.
The anti-gay rhetoric has really been noticed up with some obscene type comments.
Disappointing at the beginning but now to be expected.
Rudy stinks.
LOL, I am descended from the Hatfields AND the McCoy's!
I come by my attitude honestly. The problem now seems to be with the city slickers!
"Far from being a liberal, he ran New York with a conservative’s priorities: government exists above all to keep people safe in their homes and in the streets"
No, government exists (or used to) in this country to safeguard our freedoms. The Founding Fathers had no interest in safety and security FROM government. They wanted Government out of the way so they could take care of those, and other issues on their own. Government exists ONLY to safeguard those liberties and for no other reason.
Your comments campaigning for the most radically liberal Republican presidential candidate EVER aren't welcome or worth a dime on a conservative forum dedicated to fighting against just about everything that your liberal candidate stands for!!? DUHHHH!!!!!
"Wrong! Personal safety is very much an individual responsibility in a free nation."
Preach it brother, too many seem to have forgotten that simple fact.
Indeed, in one recent poll, majorities of Republicans who were informed of Giuliani’s views on social issues said that they were either minor issues or no issues at all; only 16% said that they wouldn't vote for him after being informed of these views.
In the online GOP Bloggers poll, Giuliani is consistently one of the few candidates to end up with a net positive acceptability rating. These internet denizens are well-informed, and overwhelmingly self-describe as conservative (78% self-describe as 7 or higher on a 10-scale of conservatism). If these people can support Rudy, anyone can.
Human Events, Is Giuliani the Republican Peyton Manning,
2/6/07
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780060/posts
White evangelical Protestants now clearly favor Rudy Giuliani over Sen. John McCain, "despite his support of abortion rights and gay rights, two issues of great importance to religious conservatives."
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1792708/posts
Thats a fact; for the first time in 4 years I clicked on my home page yesterday and tried to figure out how to get off of this forum. Still enjoy the ability to check the news but am too tempted to add my humble opinion which being from California hits most of these folks like a commie.
I have never and will never vote for a Democrat in my life time but the rancor here is becoming unbearable for me. What happened last night? I am pretty much on only at the office.
can't we park all the Rudy stuff in a Rudy Forum topic?
It seems we have viral posters, Rudy-bots, and even bashers which post and repost and re re post the same stuff.
It is rather pointless and just generating noise of FR.
Thank you! I am one of the people outraged at the charge that I am a treasonous liberal right in big bold headlines and it stayed up. I don't understand the thinking of this site except they want all Rudy supporters gone. That is becoming clearer by the day especially after last night when the Rudy ping list was used by the owner of this site to ping all of us to some of his comments -- not very professonal if you ask me.
Time is growing close at hand for a lot of us to make a decision -- we are not new posters, we have been here for years but are treated worse then Democrats on here. Crude language has no place on a site that I thought was dedicated to the exchange of ideas. Last night with the gay bashing thread took the cake IMHO. Start here and track back for an example: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1792251/posts?page=98#98
See post #170.
Could be that you are getting really close to crossing some lines you shouldn't! Some issues are not negotiable, but you keep trying.
I can't speak for everyone, but when I say "NO", I don't mean "MAYBE".
Rudy Guiliani is a typical left wing prosecutor type.
He flows from the DOJ which is rife with lawyers for follow their left wing law school indoctrination.
Seriously the Rusdy Guiliani supporters are making a Dukakis mistake. Rudy should just admit he is a liberal straight out and drop the Clintonesque parsing. (ie the manure that civil unions are not the same as marriage, or just admit he will sign the assault weapons ban)
And I am the Queen of Romania.
The Rudy McRomney WIERD-o-thon continues..
I believe in The Constitution, what do YOU believe in?
I believe in God and the teachings of Jesus Christ.
LOL..
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.