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Is Driving Rinos out of the GOP Good for the Country? Thought-Provoking Must-Read for Rudy-Haters.
FR | April 16, 2002 | Common Tator

Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons

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To: NathanR

It's obvious that's what you meant. You said "he", not "it".


821 posted on 02/28/2007 2:01:23 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: Cold Heat

Well said, Cold Heat.


822 posted on 02/28/2007 2:01:32 PM PST by Chena
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To: Peach
It was probably EV!

I'm thinking it was more of a team effort.

823 posted on 02/28/2007 2:01:44 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: William Terrell
Once or twice is "communication of truth". It got way beyond that. It became spam and only made people mad.
824 posted on 02/28/2007 2:02:24 PM PST by NathanR (Après moi, le deluge.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I'm thinking it was more of a team effort.

What are you babbling about?

825 posted on 02/28/2007 2:03:10 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
LOL, get all hag-like if you want, I'm used to it from your type. I saw it, and I would have hit abuse on it no matter who posted it and what kind of thread it was. Language like that is totally unaccaptable on FR. Hers was pulled before mine, even! So there. HA! :)

My "type"? What "type" is that?

You have proven yourself unable to tell the truth about this matter.

826 posted on 02/28/2007 2:03:24 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Reagan Man

If only you were somebody who mattered.


827 posted on 02/28/2007 2:03:27 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: skeeter
Your go-along, get-along philosophy has gotten us no where but closer and closer to what those who are unapologetically prinicipled - the leftists - have in mind for us. No thanks.

That's the peril of a democratic republic. It functions on the will of the people, and is subject to national mood swings. That mood is like the wind. You can sail with it, tack (i.e. zigzag) against it, or sail dead into it. We can't sail with it, and we're dead in the water if we sail into it.

We might not like the idea of a guy who will be strong on national defense, and weak on domestic issues. But the voter will go with him, or go with an outright weak-on-everything leftist. They aren't looking for Newt Gingrich or Dick Cheney.

Call the voters what you want. Irrational, immature, childish, spoiled, you name it. They may be all of those things, but it's America, and you either play the system, or it'll play you. I'd love to see some meat eating, fire breathing conservative jump to the fore and start reading liberals the riot act, but it's not in the cards for 2008.

828 posted on 02/28/2007 2:03:34 PM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: NathanR
No. One or more firemen were gay.

If they kept driving by with their lights-a-flashin' and their siren-a-blarin', I'd be a little more than ticked off.

829 posted on 02/28/2007 2:03:48 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: NinoFan

It could have been a flaming lesbian.


830 posted on 02/28/2007 2:03:55 PM PST by Rex Anderson (Topeka, Kansas: Home of the Rudy-Haters)
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To: BykrBayb

Placemarker


831 posted on 02/28/2007 2:04:31 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Al Simmons

I am certainly not a Rudy-Hater. I would just rather have a real true conservative win the Republican nomination, and there is still a chance for that to happen. I am supporting Duncan Hunter and hope he wins the nomination. If it does not happen, then I will have to vote for the winner no matter who it is. In that case, it will be anyone but the Democrat!


832 posted on 02/28/2007 2:04:35 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Al Simmons

Not sure I agree entirely with his premise. It does make sense that about 1/3 of Americans are doctrinaire liberals and 1/3 are doctrinaire conservatives. But defining what constitutes the middle ground is the issue.

I refuse to believe that middle of the road Americans support unconditional abortion, illegal alien amnesty,
homosexuality as an equivalent lifestyle to heterosexuality, and disarmanment of law-abiding citizens as a neccessary or wise objective.

Yet the far left - that 33% of Dems believe this.

Their candidates reflect it and they manage to get nominated and elected. And I believe this happens because the Democrat party is more dedicated to the premise that their ideas are the correct ones, they are more ideologically unified, less willing to compromise, and they are far more dedicated to achieving their objectives.

Republicans on the other hand, are NOT ideologically unified, they frequently are willing to compromise on issues in a manner that provides the Democrat left with a moral victory, they more frequently fail to deliver to their base, they become retrospective and defeatist when they loose, and are willing to shift positions to the left in an effort - generally failed - to secure left wing voters. A far larger percentage of Republican leaders are more than willing to compromise what they present as their core values in an effort to win an election, than are Demcorats and I believe every time they do this, they loose.

A Republican can't win an election running as Democrat light.


833 posted on 02/28/2007 2:04:47 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Not single FREEPER, unless I have missed seeing the post, has ever claimed that schools should teach about homosexuality.

Criminals and convicted felons should NOT be allowed to own guns and that is a national law, isn't it?

When we are facing a world wide onslaught by Islamonazis, abortion, as a topic, needs must be placed on a back burner.

Where DID those "principles" get people who stayed home or voted for Perot, because they were upset by President Bush the elder's "READ MY LIPS" remark and then had the Dems make him break it. They never have condemned the Dems; only the elder Bush.

834 posted on 02/28/2007 2:04:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Howlin

If only I cared what you thought.

Which I don't, btw.


835 posted on 02/28/2007 2:05:23 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Rex Anderson

Me, too!


836 posted on 02/28/2007 2:05:27 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance
What are you babbling about?I dunno, can't read?
837 posted on 02/28/2007 2:05:56 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Howlin
Well, I believe that if you compromise with liberals or for liberal issues you get liberalism. I don't see liberals compromising for more freedom, only less. Compromising for less freedom is failure not success. I'd rather fight for what's right than surrender to (compromise with) what's evil.

Compromise on political issues like taxes, spending, budgets, economic matters, government fiscal or political policy is one thing, but compromise on issues pertaining to the basic and fundamental rights to life and liberty are quite another. Seems like some people are in an awful hurry to write off our must precious rights as meaningless trifles. I thought conservatives had more spunk than that.
838 posted on 02/28/2007 2:06:44 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I can't follow your little hen party cluckings, no.


839 posted on 02/28/2007 2:06:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: Howlin
If only you were somebody who mattered.

I am curious. Who does matter?

Honest question.

840 posted on 02/28/2007 2:07:04 PM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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