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Is Driving Rinos out of the GOP Good for the Country? Thought-Provoking Must-Read for Rudy-Haters.
FR | April 16, 2002 | Common Tator

Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons

Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002

The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.

Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.

Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.

There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.

When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.

Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.

But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.

This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.

When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.

Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.

If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.

To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.

Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.

Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.

If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.


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KEYWORDS: 11thcommandment; 1dumbvanity; dinos; duncanhunter; fanatics; fauxreaganites; giuliani; rinos; rinotalkingpoints; rudy; yesrinosmustgo
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi

Wait a minute. Why are you digging at me? If you want to post a statement of your beliefs, please do so. I have no beef with you. I'm not accusing you of anything.
Thanks


1,881 posted on 03/01/2007 9:45:01 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: Jim Robinson

FYI, the shoe don't fit and I'm getting sick of people trying to cram my foot into it. I am capable of choosing and fitting my own shoes.


1,882 posted on 03/01/2007 9:45:03 PM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi (Terri Schiavo Incapacitated Persons Protection Bill - Duncan Hunter did not vote)
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi

That's right. I agree with you 100%.


1,883 posted on 03/01/2007 9:45:54 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: OMalley

First, you seem to have issues of insecurity about your manhood. Gay lovin? Skirt wearin, Pro homo dude? I used to think homophobia was a joke, but you seem to embody it.

As far as the "dig up dirt" claim, I am simply showing you that Hunter has his own problems.

I think you really have some deeply rooted issues to resolve.


1,884 posted on 03/01/2007 9:46:18 PM PST by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Registered

Perhaps you would be so helpful as to post the whereabouts of Rep. Hunter (was he in Washington, DC), and his physical status when this vote tool place ... and we could also use a total of the votes for and against the bill.


1,885 posted on 03/01/2007 9:46:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Because you are the one allowing the crap to be flung all over this place. The noise factor is so loud that thoughtful, insightful, intellectual posts like the ones above stating the true definition of conservatism and the role of a moral code within that political system are lost in the cesspool. It's sad to see happen. Yes, this forum goes through cycles like this, but this one is different.


1,886 posted on 03/01/2007 9:48:24 PM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi (Terri Schiavo Incapacitated Persons Protection Bill - Duncan Hunter did not vote)
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To: Registered

ROFLMAO!! Really. OMG!!

I dont have any super secret closet homosexual feelings or problems with my manhood. Im a SHE!!!! ROFL.

Thanks, I really needed a good laugh, hahahahaha.


1,887 posted on 03/01/2007 9:48:41 PM PST by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: MHGinTN

Perhaps you could do it for us, as you seem to want to know where he was and what he was doing. Of course, if we leave it up to some of the rabid Hunter supporters we can assume he was delivering bottled water to Terry Schiavo in Florida.


1,888 posted on 03/01/2007 9:49:41 PM PST by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: OMalley

I guess Homophobia is not limited to men. Thanks for the insight and confirmation.


1,889 posted on 03/01/2007 9:50:44 PM PST by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi

We'll survive it.


1,890 posted on 03/01/2007 9:50:47 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: Registered

I was hoping you had data from which you made your assumptions of 'lazy' and 'couldn't care enough'. What was your actual sense of why he was not registered in this vote?


1,891 posted on 03/01/2007 9:51:31 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: nopardons
"Do you know that Hunter says that birth control pills should be outlawed, because they're the same as abortions? And no, he wasn't talking about the morning after pill. Just wait until THAT gets widely known! LOL"

IF Hunter said that;

I say IF Hunter actually said that:

That would make him a 100% certifiable Maroon -

But I don't know WHETHER he SAID THAT.

So I will give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's not one.

1,892 posted on 03/01/2007 9:52:14 PM PST by Al Simmons (Why Rudy in 2008? Because National Security should not be left to children.)
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To: Registered

oh you are SO welcome ROFL. I dont fear anyone, get a grip buddy. You are too much, thanks, really for the laugh:-)


1,893 posted on 03/01/2007 9:52:39 PM PST by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: MHGinTN

The data is that he didn't vote on a VERY SERIOUS PRO-LIFE VOTE, no MATTER WHAT THE VOTE TOTALS WERE!! Sheesh.


1,894 posted on 03/01/2007 9:53:50 PM PST by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: OMalley

You're welcome. Good luck on letting that homophobia thing go.


1,895 posted on 03/01/2007 9:54:26 PM PST by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Jim Robinson
"We'll survive it."

Hear, hear!

1,896 posted on 03/01/2007 9:54:44 PM PST by Al Simmons (Why Rudy in 2008? Because National Security should not be left to children.)
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To: Al Simmons
Is Driving Conservatives and Moderates out of the Republican Party Good for the Country?
1,897 posted on 03/01/2007 9:54:44 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
The dissonance level seems to have reached cacophony at times. We don't get much information when that happens.
1,898 posted on 03/01/2007 9:54:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Registered

LOL. Homophobia? Did someone swallow a lib pill or what?


1,899 posted on 03/01/2007 9:56:08 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: nickcarraway
"Is Driving Conservatives and Moderates out of the Republican Party Good for the Country?"

*ROTFLMAO* - Good one squire, like it, like it...

1,900 posted on 03/01/2007 9:56:11 PM PST by Al Simmons (Why Rudy in 2008? Because National Security should not be left to children.)
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