Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Where's the "applause" key on this dang computer anyhow? ;)
Bull
Horns
see tagline
"Who is more pro-life? You and your pro-life talk or Pete Sessions and his pro-life walk? Hasn't he earned more respect from this site of all places than what he has been served up here?""
Pete Sessions may not have a prolife walk. I have seen too many politicians vote prolife because it is the political expedient thing to do. But at some point they end up disappointing those very voters who were counting on them.
You accuse those who don't agree with you of having a pro life talk. If we were to vote for a pro abortion candidate like Rudy Giulianni, you would be right! But my pro life walk means that I would not now or not ever vote for Giulianni or any other politician who is not adamantly opposed to abortions.
The fact that Pete Sessions would endorse Giulianni means that deep down he wasn't ever that opposed to abortion but was only pandering to his constituents. What a pity!
I'm not sure I understand. I am drifting in and out of this thread, but every time I come back, you are fighting with someone. I think you are making reasonable points, but being unreasonably antagonistic.
Bull
Horns
You don't know me, but you are willing to start trouble with a threat? EV is right... Grow up.
And no, I am not willing to give the benefit of the doubt to anyone, calling anyone else an abortionist, or a "baby killer", which is also a term flung about here, now.
Well your grammar is shockingly bad, so I suppose reading is beyond your mental abilities.
I'm wise to your little miss muffet, bullshiite. I know exactly what I "preached" to you means and just because your parochial fanatic friends tell you that I'm an unbeliever--it ain't necessarily so. You like to go through the rudy threads spreading nasty comments and running whenever intellectually challenged. I'll be calling you on it whenever the whimsy strikes me.
Until then keep praying for me like you said you would.
Why no, I did not.
There WAS sexual content on that thread and to say otherwise, is a lie.
I am not mean, but keep on posting that I am and that I've never had any fun, and everyone will see just what and who you are.
I am not mean, but keep on posting that I am and that I've never had any fun, and everyone will see just what and who you are.
BRAVO!
Something which you obviously know a very great deal about; sadly.
I've been at this all day and yes I am feeling like I've opened a can of rhetorical whoopass. If you want to beat your breast about your parochial vision, go ahead. If you don't want me to talk to you, don't say anything stupid.
But since you've already said McCain is the only TRUE conservative running--you can't be all that bright. I'm lenient when it comes to the mentally-challenged; but as Jim Robinson himself has said endorsing this odd free-for-all, don't push it.
Oh, I'm talking about and that thread; but nice try with that defection...even though it failed miserably.
Oh, I'm talking about and that thread; but nice try with that deflection...even though it failed miserably.
Yes, it is a problem that Alan Keys appears to think he is God.
But thank you for attempting to impugn my mother. That took the shine off your rose, for sure and certain.
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