No Gladys, for that "babykiller" remark, you will not borrow a cup of sugar. Now SHOO! Tell Abner I said "hello!"
Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
A. Who TH is John Cox?? And why would I care what EV thinks?,, and
B. Does he have to see him run for us to reach that conclusion?
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I spun nothing. I simply posted the definition of the word and saw how it was being used.
ago=again
And I for one won't forget it.
Your forget the conspiracy folks.
Ted was Johathan Pollard's attorney for over a decade.
I'm guessing probono, but I don't know.
This is where we yip follow the money, yap worldwide socialist conspiracies.
And of course, proRudys as traitors.
A traitor being defended.
It's important to libel an American like Ted Olson from every possible direction.
No way Jose. That'd be walking through a mine field. This debate needs to run its own course.
Can't win them all.
My first thread was a response to the same type of comments on a couple of earlier threads that then really "bloomed" with the "treasonous liberals" thread.
Calling someone, in effect, an irrational fanatic - which is what I did in my first thread - is not on the same order of calling someone you disagree with a traitor. Or a liberal.
Make your case, Al. Why must we elect Rudy or die at the hands of terrorists?
Is Driving Rinos out of the GOP Good for the Country?
Ummm...
Yes.
Or they can keep it as well.
Those of us that give a damn about principles can always do what the gipper did when he realized his original party choice deserted him.
Ya. "Rudybots are treasonous liberals." Kind of thin skinned for Rudy supporters to be angered by that, and rather anal of them to notice that the thread remained up, and that you then shared with the throng that "treasonous" just meant betrayal of trust, so what was the big deal.
Thanks. I've had it with the hubris of these loons.
They represent a tiny fraction of the wingnut faction of our party, and they act like they are indispensable. LOL!
This may be our best opportunity in a long, long time to prove how insignificant they really are. Imagine how liberating that would be.
You missed my point. The campaign underway is a primary campaign. There are no straight party tickets, or they're all straight party tickets.
Rudy isn't the nominee.
I think Ted did get married again recently ...dont know is "she" was transgendered or not
It was perceived by some of us an as abdication of responsibility (to keep control of the kids in the playground)...
You've found someone who you think can win a popularity contest against Hillary. And you may be right.
But Duncan Hunter "fills" your half full glass. He just needs name recognition and exposure. Unlike Rudy, he'll fight the WOT and the largely ignored one on our Border..
Just my 2 cents..sw
You are focused on lines that won't be crossed; well you crossed one.
So you found a liberal you could support.
Incredible.
If they are tools to promote a candidacy I do not accept them. Anybody who doesn't know Giuliani's positions on major positions by now either doesn't care or is stupid.
Polls this far out from any electoral activities are meaningless anyway. They're of interest to paid political whores or people who are in dire need of a life.
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