Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: Common Tator in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
That's the idea, Miss Marple. Only support sure losers so they can be perpetually P.O.ed. It's all a game. I firmly believe the nastiest of posters are here to disrupt and demoralize.
I feel honored that you would even suggest it, but like you, I wonder where the conservatives have gone. Maybe a better statement would be "When did the liberals overtake the GOP?"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1791139/posts
Hey, I didn't write the post. I didn't write the ones from the other side either. Sometimes I've just got to say, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
Don't kid yourself - each side of this argument is giving as good as they get.
Tell the truth, you're really Nellie Olson, aren't you?
Aw Fiddlstix! Your omyx has been very sick with a horrible Carribean flu. I've missed you.
You and your fifth columnist filthy ilk have been slammed and slurred for years. Deservedly so.
You know, this is a rare day for me, nursing a cold and hanging out. But I understand how important balance is in life.
You should get out more, enjoy some fresh air. Maybe it will help your consistantly narly mood and bitterness whenever "Rudy" is mentioned favorably.
The higher Rudy ascends in the polls, the more shrill they become. Duncan went from 2% to an asterisk in the latest WaPo poll yesterday, and the Hunter supporters have a frothy mess all over their faces.
Ya, it was a good head's up. I guess I will just check every 3 months or so, to see if there has been a change of venue. Then again, you posted that you were involved in Sali's campaign, and since I am so clever, that was itself a disclosure that you were in Idaho.
40-50% of Republican voters either mis-identify or do not know Giuliani's positions on abortion, homosexual rights or gun control it's fairly easy to understand why he would lead even among white Evangelicals.
Let's see where the numbers go when his positions are widely known.
IMO, that's a boatload of manure. The guy is already one of the most well known figures in the country.
My primary fear is that we will end up with a democrat in the White House. I have grandchildren I am concerned about.
One thing about Guiliani (or McCain, for that matter) is that I know he will go after the terrorists. I feel that ALL of the Republicans (with the exception of Brownback) would do so.
In-fighting at such a personal level is not helpful. We are going to have to unite around whoever is the eventual candidate, and too much of these insults are going to make that difficult.
I will vote for and donate to whoever wins the nomination, even if it is someone I don't particularly like. I will even support McCain (whom I despise) if he becomes the nominee.
We simply cannot allow the democrats to win. They are getting smarter, and we can't count on them to shoot themselves in the foot again, and the media has gone from bias to active support for the democrats.
Unlike Jim, I think that the democrat has a good shot at winning. I am against any action that facilitates that possibility.
C'mon. As if you have clean hands? Bwahahahhahahah!
You complaints and protests of innocence fall on deaf ears.
...and that "Rudy Bots are treasonous Liberals" thread led me to begin this one:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1791032/posts
and then this one as well...
I'm glad your posting more today, because I was beginning to miss you. Glad your starting to get better.
I dont see all this noise accomplishing much however. Id say if you want a good social conservative in the race and the abortion issue to be high up on the agenda ya better start banding together and promote somebody
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