Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
I can't wait to see them demand that we all support Keyes because "only a real, true conservative" can win.
Read post #385, and be healed.
It's still there. Hasn't moved an inch, other than a few sellouts.
Yep, I am afraid that you are shooting blanks again. Your argument seems to be that nobody but the greedy, gay and Godless would work for Rudy, and therefore they are. That argument just has this certain je ne sais qua quality to it.
Quite frankly, I'm amazed God didn't strike you dead when you posted that; that took more unmitigated gall than I've seen in years, given the amount of money you've helped Keyes bilk out of people.
Every time I read someone say the Republicans under George Bush have been advancing the culture of death, I begin to wonder how they arrived at that conclusion. George Bush and the Republican party fought on behalf of Terri but yet they get blamed for her death.
The Republicans swept themselves into the minority, while the Democrats ran on a "vote for us and we'll tell you what we'll do" agenda.
That's why I keep asking EV. I want a reference point when all of a sudden, out of the blue, Keyes emerges to save the country, the planet, the universe(!), as if it hadn't been completely $taged for Mo Money.
LOL
My purpose was to clear the air after this remark, which I took exception to:
"Hollering insults at freepers and calling Guiliani names starts reminding me of the Reagan/Ford arguments, and that is how we wound up with Carter!"
If you have a problem with that. Don't know what to tell you.
Well at least he didn't say "van" or "schoolbus".
And I said name names.
What it suggests is that people who are tired of being called traitors and pro-abortion and anti-gun in the face of all known facts will leave.
Only a political whore, who exists on other people's money, would see it any other way.
Keyes is not going to enter the race. Twice is enough. Not to mention the Illinois fiasco.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1792951/posts
Guliani Leads Among White Evangelicals
"In the Republican race, former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, who recently made clear his intentions to seek the presidency, has expanded his lead over Sen. John McCain of Arizona. Giuliani holds a 2 to 1 advantage over McCain among Republicans, according to the poll, more than tripling his margin of a month ago.
The principal reason was a shift among white evangelical Protestants, who now clearly favor Giuliani over McCain. Giuliani among this group of Americans despite his support of abortion rights and gay rights, two issues of great importance to religious conservatives. McCain opposes abortion rights.
I'm responding to the 'You voted for Jimmah Carter, didn't you'
Yes
Since when did that become a bad thing?
If that is so, them that is a very strange happenstance and I'm sure that ALL of FR are going to be quite interested in this "factoid".
Well that's good because I am a 'fire-eating' conservative, but a pragmatic one with a keen survival instinct.
Remember the joke when Ah-nold ran first: "Arnold to CA GOP: 'Come wit me if you vant to live!'"
Its a similar situation. You don't see that the iceberg we hit in 2006 is just a prelude to THE BIG ONE floating out there in the darkness....and she has vampire teeth out for your blood and mine.
All I am saying to the captain around here is:"Skip, time for a little course correction. Skip?"
P.S. I will respond to the Whitman reference with the same statement I have given since 1990, when she almost upset Bill Bradley: "I would go out on a date with her in a heartbeat - but I'd never vote for her for national office."
No one talks for me, but me. Why are you trying to stir up trouble?
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