'cept his is Belgian, not Brazilian.
The modern select-fire weapons are better than the early M-16s, but we're still prejudiced.
Posted on 02/24/2007 5:18:52 PM PST by xsrdx
SEATTLE - Modern hunters rarely become more famous than Jim Zumbo. A mustachioed, barrel-chested outdoors entrepreneur who lives in a log cabin near Yellowstone National Park, he has spent much of his life writing for prominent outdoors magazines, delivering lectures across the country and starring in cable TV shows about big-game hunting in the West.
Zumbo's fame, however, has turned to black-bordered infamy within America's gun culture -- and his multimedia success has come undone. It all happened in the past week, after he publicly criticized the use of military-style assault rifles by hunters, especially those gunning for prairie dogs.
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Ever actually seen one? Outside of the zoo?
Didn't think so.
Scoped, high capacity semiauto rifles are perfectly adapted to keeping the prairie dog menace in check.
Machine guns are not as effective, prairie dogs invented defilade.
lose Pat Wray too.
"You’re right, I don’t the difference between a 223 and a 22 caliber – actually, I’ve never hear of a 223.
My comment was meant to make a distinction between “hunting” and general firepower. When I hunt I always select what I consider to be appropriate – I’ve never hunted ground hogs, but I doubt that I select a high-powered assault weapon for that.
The original reason for this discussion was that a renowned sportsman didn’t think using assault weapons to hunt prairie dogs was appropriate. I agree with him."
It appears your agreement stems from ignorance of the subject matter. You will change your mind when you are better informed.
The left is cranking up another AWB campaign. It must me time to buy another gun and a pile of 15 round Glock magazines. When Clinton was President I bought a new gun almost every year.
Good, because Zumbo still doesn't understand that the 2A isn't about hunting. ....and I doubt he ever will. (He apologized for his comments only after learning that many hunters do indeed use "assault" rifles in the field, as if that fact makes any difference whatsoever as far as whether or not they should be legal).
A lot is lost in translation.
It will give you a word - not necessarily the best word, or the etymologically correct word - something with which to make yourself understood (usually.)
What we need is the German equivalent of the O.E.D.
'cept his is Belgian, not Brazilian.
The modern select-fire weapons are better than the early M-16s, but we're still prejudiced.
Don't you just hate it when we have to keep explaining those things to people that evidently still watch the MSM news outlets? I figured if you belong to FR you should already know the things you just stated. Looks like I'm wrong again.
That's true.
However, its' translation of "rifle/gewehr" is somewhat supported by other sources, such as the translation provided on the army.mil site I quoted earlier.
Then there is britannica.com, which, like the U.S. Army, has no stake in the gun control debate.
Britannica.com defines Assault Rifle as:
"military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and that has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire"
However, a search of britannica.com for "assault weapon" returns no specific results.
The New English-German Dictionary, when translating "rifle", offers a number of variations, including:
"air rifle -- das Luftgewehr"
"automatic rifle -- das Sturmgewehr"
"rifle -- das Gewehr"
Translating "weapon" returns several variations, including:
"biochemical weapons -- die Biowaffe"
"hand weapon -- die Handwaffe"
"loaded weapon -- die scharfe Waffe"
"weaponless -- unbewaffnet"
It seems to me that "assault weapon" would be "sturmwaffe", not "sturmgewehr".
While it's hard to find "reliable" info on the net, Guncite is highly regarded and respected. I trust their translation of "Assault rifle"/"Sturmgewehr" (at the link provided).
If "sturmgewehr" means "assault weapon", rather than "assault rifle", than these sources, as well as a great many authors of books & articles, documentaries, etc. have all gotten it wrong.
And I hope I haven't bored you with all of this. ;)
The odds looked much the same to a bunch of ragtag Colonists, farmers, merchants and such, facing the most powerful navy and one of the best equipped and trained armies in the world at the time. And only one third of the Colonists supported it with another third in support of the British.
Some people just aren't "in to" guns. Unlike me, they don't read the books & magazines. They don't watch the "Tales of the Gun" and other documentaries on the History Channel & Military Channel.
IMO If we can possibly educate them, we should. Our enemy's greatest weapon is ignorance.
I figured if you belong to FR you should already know the things you just stated.
As I mentioned to someone else, there are always liberal lurkers here. I try to keep that in mind when posting to threads like this.
I never assume that people reading these threads know as much as you, or I, about firearms.
Not at all. I'm sure that's what it means now, what I'm interested in is what it meant originally.
I hunt varmints of all kinds; but when hunting coyotes I often have an AR-15. My favorite rifle is a 7mm Mag Sako, but it only holds five rounds. Coyotes many times give me 7-10 targets in one spot. I want to get rid of as many as I can, stopping to reload is not and option. Plus 5.56 is cheaper that 7mag.A good day is 25-30 coyotes in the back of the truck.
Well, that's a relief.
I'm sure that's what it means now, what I'm interested in is what it meant originally.
I leave that to historians & linguists to debate.
And now, I will bow out of the "weapon vs. rifle" discussion (which I enjoyed), with this:
While every rifle can be a weapon, not every weapon is a rifle. ;o)
Are you a hunter or an exterminator? Hunting involves at least a modicum of skill. Slaughtering animals doesn't.
And let's avoid posting that old poem that everybody learned back in the day . . . "This is my weapon . . ."
First you can't define "assault weapon". Then you think that hunting coyotes is "slaughtering". Never had a house cat or a small dog nabbed by a coyote, have you? The plague of coyotes here is so bad, they have wiped out all the outdoor cats in this area and most of the small dogs. The neighborhood association has hired a professional trapper. Last month he got a total of 80.
When you're in a hole, stop digging.
Cough! "Old poem?!" If General Rupertus could hear you...
Lol.
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