Gun Remark Kills Outdoorsman's Career (WP)

The Washington Post ^ | 24 FEB 07 | Blaine Harden

[xsrdx]

SEATTLE - Modern hunters rarely become more famous than Jim Zumbo. A mustachioed, barrel-chested outdoors entrepreneur who lives in a log cabin near Yellowstone National Park, he has spent much of his life writing for prominent outdoors magazines, delivering lectures across the country and starring in cable TV shows about big-game hunting in the West.

Zumbo's fame, however, has turned to black-bordered infamy within America's gun culture -- and his multimedia success has come undone. It all happened in the past week, after he publicly criticized the use of military-style assault rifles by hunters, especially those gunning for prairie dogs.

[coloradan]

Incidentally, the WP can't write an honest title for anything. It wasn't a gun comment, it was a ban comment.

[PzLdr]

At what it costs for a good AR, that's a bit much.

[Oztrich Boy]

I’ve never hunted ground hogs, but I doubt that I select a high-powered assault weapon for that.

"high-powered assault weapon"

No such animal "assault weapons" come in at the lower power end of the centre-fire rifle scale. Almost all hunting rifles are more powerful

[coloradan]

You are reading the post of one of them right this very instant.

[Liberty Rattler]

Sir,

US Constitution, Article 1, sec 8,:

"The congress shall have the power...

(among other things)

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections, and repel invasions."

So far as the Constitution is concerned, that is the reason for maintaining an armed militia, not for overthrow of the government.

When you couch your belief in such terms, it only plays into the hands of the enemy.

[coloradan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next thing you know, people will be calling their 220 Swifts, anti-Varmint rifles.

[flashbunny]

You've never heard of a .223, but you don't think hunting groundhogs with them would be appropriate?

And congrats on using the gun grabber term 'assault weapon'.

[Noumenon]

It's a message that even the most willful and stupid among them can understand.

[flashbunny]

So when the founding fathers expressed it as their belief, and rationale for the second amendment, they were playing into the hands of the enemy?

"what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms."

Thomas Jefferson to William Smith

[holymoly]

I've always thought that Gewehr translated to rifle.

Both Bablefish and freetranslation.com translate "gewehr" as "rifle", and vice versa.

Here is a bit of interesting info, regarding the Sturmgewehr:

(Note U.S. Army .MIL URL)
http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/woundblstcs/chapter1.htm

Enemy Ordnance Materiel

Maj. James C. Beyer, MC, Maj. James K. Arima, MSC,
and Doris W. Johnson

Quote:

"The designation of the MP 44 was later changed to Sturmgewehr 44 (assault rifle 44)."

Close quote. (Emphasis added.)

[flashbunny]

Ever hear of an "anvil shoot"? Sounds like something fun to watch --- on video tape!

[coloradan]

If you are correct, what does the part about the "being necessary to the security of a free state" mean in the Second Amendment? In other words, how exactly is freedom established if the government calls all the shots? E.g. Tianamen Square.

[healy61]

Bob, if you want to find cannon for sale, have plenty of dough for one. There are a lot of guys shooting cannon in civil war reenactments. I think there is a shoot in Grayling Michigan every year. They shoot at a plywood target. Just curious, where did you read about this sort of thing?

[labette]

I'm not having much luck finding the bullet pics I wanted, so I'll refer you back to post 94. Specifically, the six long guns in the picture.

Now these may look menacing to you, but fact is that they really aren't powerful enough for deer hunting. In my state, only the two rifles in the middle would be legal for deer. The reason the rest aren't legal is because they aren't powerful enough to kill humanely.

{Courtesy ping to Jonah Hex since I'm "borrowing" his pic}

[flashbunny]

"I’ve never hunted ground hogs, but I doubt that I select a high-powered assault weapon for that. "

Sigh.

The ar isn't high powered. It falls under SCHV - small caliber, high velocity. General hunting rifles like the 30-06 are much more powerful than them.

But if you want to call them 'assault weapons' like the brady bunch does, I'll take to calling your deer rifles "sniper rifles" in order to make them sound more dangerous. Maybe then the brady bunch will try to ban those, too!

[Bob Mc]

anvil shoot

[LiberalBassTurds]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next thing you know, people will be calling their 220 Swifts, anti-Varmint rifles.

LOL :-)

LBT
-=-=-

[Liberty Rattler]

It's a bitter pill isn't it!

I am a Jefferson fan, but we have to go by what is in the Constitution, not what might be written about the debates surrounding it. It's true that the debates give insight on what was intended. But you can be sure that what was intended here was to strengthen the Union, not overthrow it.

The one thing that can't be refuted is the intent of the Constitution to protect the Union from insurrection.

How else do you explain that clause?

I've pondered over it some myself.

[Bob Mc]

Someone posted a link in some other Free Republic thread, quite some time ago.

[healy61]

Bob, what the heck was that? Is there something that shoots an anvil?