The bones of 11,500 year old Luzia were found in Brazilin 1975
Posted on 02/23/2007 9:34:17 AM PST by george76
The Clovis people, known for their distinctive spear points, likely were not the first humans in the Americas, according to research placing their presence as more recent than previously believed.
Using advanced radiocarbon dating techniques, researchers writing in the journal Science on Thursday said the Clovis people, hunters of large Ice Age animals like mammoths and mastodons, dated from about 13,100 to 12,900 years ago.
That would make the Clovis culture, known from artifacts discovered at various sites including the town of Clovis, New Mexico, both younger and shorter-lived than previously thought. Previous estimates had dated the culture to about 13,600 years ago.
These people long had been seen as the first humans in the New World, but the new dates suggest their culture thrived at about the same time or after others also in the Americas.
Michael Waters, director of Texas A&M University's Center for the Study of the First Americans, called the research the final nail in the coffin of the so-called "Clovis first" theory of human origins in the New World.
Waters said he thinks the first people probably arrived in the Americas between 15,000 and 25,000 years ago.
"We've got to stop thinking about the peopling of the Americas as a singular event," Waters said in an interview.
"And we have to start now thinking about the peopling of the Americas as a process, with people coming over here, probably arriving at different times, maybe taking different routes and coming from different places in northeast Asia."
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Ieatfrijoles was born in Clovis NM. Stay down. I know you were all dying to know that.
Made famous Feb. 11, 2001 by the Post Inaugural Victory Brunch filmed by CSPAN
Similar to the treatment, but on a smaller scale, the global warming skeptics are receiving today.
It is possible to walk across, even now.
Is it possible to walk across because they freeze over?
So, Russia and America literally TOUCH, at least some times during the year?
well no- that is radio-carbon age- not 'real age' real age breaks down to a mere 4,000 to 7,000 year accuracy for carbon dating regardless of the methods used for carbon 14 detection- for older dates, science has to go to other controversial and innacurate dating methods that have problems all their own. A well known researcher said that "If creationists got their hands on the 14 points of assumptions that dating relies on, they'd have quite a case." Unfortunately for him though- Folks did get their hands on this info
Yes. A few years ago a couple of crazies attempted to walk to Siberia and were arrested as soon as they entered Russian territory because of lack of visas.
I doubt that it could have been polynesians. They reached Easter Island, the most eastern island they settled, less than 2000 years ago.
Not saying that it wasn't done by boat people, but it definitely wasn'e the Polynesians that island hopped across the Pacific.
Sorry, I was a history major before the Air Force.
Fantastic post.
Oh, I would agree that crossings from Asia Eastward make the most plausible sense but in modern times it has been shown that African fisherman can end up on the shores of South America by accident. I've even read an account of Inuit people ending up in Labrador as fantastic as that sounds.
It may be that we will never know the true extent of migrations and it could be that people came here from all directions in the past.
Who was it then?
Scotland and Ireland too...in historical times.
Sure there is. Not that many years ago either.
The bones of 11,500 year old Luzia were found in Brazilin 1975
It's to bad you don't accept carbon dating science. I am always pleasantly amazed how time after time modern scientific methods including carbon dating, used on archaeological digs verify the accounts of the Bible and the dates and locations of civilizations and events mentioned in the Bible.
Only a few folks still refuse to accept the science behind radiocarbon dating. Most don't know anything about the science, but they just can't handle the results!
Here are some good websites on the method for the lurkers:
ReligiousTolerance.org Carbon-14 Dating (C-14): Beliefs of New-Earth CreationistsRadiometric Dating: A Christian Perspective by Dr. Roger C. Wiens.
This site, BiblicalChronologist.org has a series of good articles on radiocarbon dating.
Are tree-ring chronologies reliable? (The Biblical Chronologist, Vol. 5, No. 1)
Tree Ring and C14 DatingHow does the radiocarbon dating method work? (The Biblical Chronologist, Vol. 5, No. 1)
How precise is radiocarbon dating?
Is radiocarbon dating based on assumptions?
Has radiocarbon dating been invalidated by unreasonable results?
Radiocarbon WEB-info Radiocarbon Laboratory, University of Waikato, New Zealand.
"I suppose the crossing from Saharan Africa to Brazil was possible, though far, but there isn't evidence that Blacks did it."
"Sure there is. Not that many years ago either."
Well yes, ok, but of their own volition, without sails.
The Olmec were probably Ethiopian and conducted extensive trade with Central America.
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