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It's the Friday after Presidents' Day, and I thought I'd post a contentious thread out there for all of us to think about -- in light of one of the hottest topics of discussion on FreeRepublic in recent weeks/months.

I'll be checking back in here later today, so post amongst yourselves while I'm gone!

1 posted on 02/23/2007 7:45:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child

Nice post. You could have added several other points, but this was more readable and still makes the case. The other points would merely add further evidence.


2 posted on 02/23/2007 7:48:20 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: Jim Robinson; Victoria Delsoul; 3niner; AdamSelene235; Afronaut; ajolympian2004; Al Simmons; ...
Rudy Giuliani ping.

If you've been pinged to this thread, it's probably because I've come across some interesting comments from you -- for or against Rudy Giuliani -- on another thread.

If you weren't pinged but find this thread interesting -- well, no big deal . . . you managed to find it anyay. LOL.

If you wish you hadn't been pinged -- well, too bad . . . I don't keep a ping list, so you probably won't hear from me again anyway. :-)

3 posted on 02/23/2007 7:48:33 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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5 posted on 02/23/2007 7:50:38 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I like Rudy just fine but that doesn't mean I like the idea of him in the white house. It might be different if there were more conservatives in congress but there aren't.


8 posted on 02/23/2007 7:52:35 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Alberta's Child
..there has been much comment in recent times concerning "The Cultural War" in America

One would have to be comatose not to recognize the cultural war raging within the GOP--the next couple of years could be the death of the Grand Old Party.

Each American must decide whether fear of other candidates and pragmatism are more important issues than those principles which are clearly defined by Divine revelation and proven over time to be paramount--the hour grows late...

22 posted on 02/23/2007 8:04:53 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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The last thing this country needs right now is an effete, dysfunctional weirdo from New York City serving as its chief executive.

True.

That is why I am voting against Hillary Clinton. (as well as any stealth Islamist candidate)

23 posted on 02/23/2007 8:05:48 AM PST by NathanR (Après moi, le deluge.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Other than your utter nonsense about the dreaded "neocons", its not a bad screed.


24 posted on 02/23/2007 8:09:37 AM PST by pissant
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Pinging the Duncan Hunter list for their opinion on this vanity.


25 posted on 02/23/2007 8:10:02 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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This would only be a legitimate argument if applied to a candidate who is conservative on, say, 70% of the issues -- but it is awfully silly when used to support a candidate who is conservative on about 20% of the issues -- especially the "defining issues" for so many conservatives.

Please give me more insight into your calculation. On basis of what are you saying that Rudy is only conservative on only 20% of the issues?
29 posted on 02/23/2007 8:14:08 AM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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Very well done AC!

The primaries are still a year out so there is much work to be done. In the years I have been voting this is the first time I have ever had such an awful choice of candidates. One thing is for sure and that is my personal line in the sand has been reached. I refuse to support or vote for someone who would deprive me of my rights, property and possible freedom (2nd Amendment).

The immigration issue is disgraceful and can anyone successfully argue the WOT when the borders are wide open and we are flooded with illegals? This war will never be over and both parties will milk it for all it is worth. There is no country to be forced to surrender. Terrorist groups sprout like weeds. It is a world wide gorilla operation with so many groups that a declared surrender or end is impossible. All we can do is try to exterminate them first.

Rudy was good for NYC and that is all that can be said.

Long shot or not Duncan Hunter is my only option.

32 posted on 02/23/2007 8:15:17 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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Post of the week!!


37 posted on 02/23/2007 8:16:24 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Misery loves miserable company.......ask any liberal. Hunter in 08!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Very good post! I already don't like Gulianni. As you said better than me, a New York Republican is something the red states don't recognize.


41 posted on 02/23/2007 8:18:52 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Alberta's Child

All excellent points. The place to beat Guiliani is in the primaries. I'd prefer Newt, and I'd probably vote for a Guiliani-Newt ticket (but I'd prefer a Newt-Guiliani ticket).

If it came down to "Guiliani-Romney" vs Hillary, I'd probably go third party.


44 posted on 02/23/2007 8:20:38 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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But Tokyo is not an American city, and Peru is not the United States . . . and nor, quite frankly, is New York City.

This attitude is a good part of the reason why the anti-Rudy contingent finds themselves on the losing side this time and can't understand why. You clearly haven't got the slightest idea what the Statue of Liberty is all about.

50 posted on 02/23/2007 8:23:35 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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Awesome post. All the Rudybots will go off on you now.

Remember, Rudy is the candidate the MSM wants you to support. The same MSM that bashed the WoT, and the President day in and day out.

When will you people wake up?

53 posted on 02/23/2007 8:24:47 AM PST by Pistolshot (Condi 2008.<------added January 2004. Remember you heard it here first)
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What this all comes down to is that each and every one of us is either a Republican or a conservative.

Mark Levin made this exact point on his program yesterday. He came out as a conservative. While he has mostly exposed McCain, he also had some for Rudy as well.

Pinging the Great One to the thread.

57 posted on 02/23/2007 8:26:09 AM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Great post. Thanks.


61 posted on 02/23/2007 8:30:19 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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Trust me Rudy fans. Don't take the route California took. We screwed up big time with Arnold. Unfortunately all we've managed to do is stay on life support when we'd have been better off going into default under a democratic administration. No need in giving the GOP a bad name for the next century just to put a RINO in control.


66 posted on 02/23/2007 8:36:29 AM PST by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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Hear! Hear!

Well reasoned. Well written. Well said.

68 posted on 02/23/2007 8:38:40 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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Great post! It explains exactly why I could not vote for Rudy. And why the Rudy supporters aren't going to change my mind by calling us names and threatening Hillary.


69 posted on 02/23/2007 8:38:48 AM PST by conservatrice
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