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A Message to Rudy Giuliani and His Supporters (VANITY)
Self | February 23, 2007 | Alberta's Child

Posted on 02/23/2007 7:45:02 AM PST by Alberta's Child

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To: justshutupandtakeit

Well, we'll just see about that. I will truly be surprised if Rudy survives and becomes the GOP nominee.


581 posted on 02/23/2007 10:30:24 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Rudy is a democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: Alberta's Child
The last thing this country needs right now is an effete, dysfunctional weirdo from New York City serving as its chief executive.

Ouch. That'll leave a mark.

IF YOU’RE TRYING TO SELL A PHONY CONSERVATIVE, THEN THIS FELLA AIN’T GONNA BE YOUR CUSTOMER.

Amen, bro. I'm right there with you.

I'm jealous, though. This thread will probably reach 1,000 posts whereas my last vanity only got up to 136 :-(
582 posted on 02/23/2007 11:21:19 PM PST by Antoninus ("For some, the conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it's my hope." -Duncan Hunter)
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To: Alberta's Child
Good evening.
"I didn't mean to imply that Reagan was a fraud in any way"

I know, I understood.

It will be interesting to see what kind of imagery Rudi's handlers will try to present.

Michael Frazier
583 posted on 02/23/2007 11:33:05 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: quantim

That was a delightful movie.


584 posted on 02/24/2007 12:58:25 AM PST by James Ewell Brown Stuart (I support the President and the war on terror!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Just let me know the next time you write another! :)


586 posted on 02/24/2007 4:58:18 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Good old fashioned observation and analysis.

I'm glad I don't have to argue against the points you have made.


587 posted on 02/24/2007 5:33:37 AM PST by labette ("Come,and let us reason together...")
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To: OKIEDOC
"Dimocrats under Hellary, Osama Obama and Breckgirl will imperil Americas future and you can bet your LIFE on that."

BINGO

If the RATS control things for too long, we could wind up like Canada (I noticed a post on this string from a Canadian).
588 posted on 02/24/2007 5:51:10 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: daviddennis; TommyDale; Reagan Man; Spiff

Dear daviddennis,

Why does the "burden of proof" fall on to those pointing out that there is no evidence generally that Mr. Giuliani typically appointed conservative jurists?

After all, the question doesn't appear out of thin air. The question comes from Mr. Giuliani's own statements, that he will appoint judges and justices like Mr. Scalia, Mr. Roberts, et. al.

That laughable claim being made, it's perfect appropriate to ask the question, well, is there any past behavior on the part of Mr. Giuliani that would show that he may be telling the truth? Has Mr. Giuliani appointed judges before?

The answer is, yes, indeed, he has! Then the next appropriate questions are, how many did he appoint? How many of those were conservatives?

Here, it seems that the burden of proof is on Mr. Giuliani and the rudybots who so defend him. After all, the conservatives asking the question are only asking it to see whether or not Mr. Giuliani's claims about what he will do in the future are supported by his actions in the past.

Actual conservatives are highly skeptical that this man will do conservative things after two decades of liberalism. Without evidence of appointing conservative jurists, our skepticism will not be overcome. In fact, lack of evidence of appointing conservative jurists will only confirm our doubts about the man and his promises to appoint "strict constructionist" jurists.

It is inexplicable that if he'd appointed large numbers of conservative jurists that he wouldn't present that as evidence of his bona fides on the issue of Supreme Court appointees.

Although not conclusive, the most reasonable conclusion from his failure to tout his own appointments to the bench, by giving us a breakdown of who he appointed by party, is that he appointed pretty much liberal Dems, and he understands that to permit the truth of it to come to light would undermine his current claims and promises.

The burden of proof is on Mr. Giuliani and all the rudybots.

Conservatives who oppose Mr. Giuliani have every right to say that Mr. Giuliani has not shown that he will appoint conservative jurists, because there is no evidence that he ever did that in the past, in spite of his admission to have appointed a hundred judges or so.


sitetest


589 posted on 02/24/2007 5:55:26 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Great post, thanks for the ping.


590 posted on 02/24/2007 6:59:08 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I love pissing off liberals, both democrat and republican.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Thank you for the ping.

According to my lights, Mr. Giuliani is on the wrong side on far too many issues.

The line in the sand for me is his stance on gun control. I won't provide money or time to an anti-gun candidate.

591 posted on 02/24/2007 7:07:14 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: daviddennis
"Finally, I'm sure you have noticed I've written hundreds of words of original writing on Giuliani's side in recent days. I think the burden of proof is on you about that laziness accusation, too."

I agree and if you refer back to my post #545, you'll see where I was coming from. You are a refreshing voice of reason
592 posted on 02/24/2007 7:46:46 AM PST by Gop1040
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To: daviddennis

Below is another of my responses to the person making accusations of laziness.

To: TommyDale
"There are literally dozens of articles, ranging from the Washington Post to the Washington Times. If you weren't so lazy you would read them and decide for yourself, rather than shoot the messenger."

Lazy! You do a document dump and you call that research. What are the charges against Rudy??? What was illegal, what was unethical, what crimes or misindeamores is he being charged/accused with? I read all the leftist/communists hit pieces you referenced. There's nothing there, there. He trusted a colleague and excellent ex-NYC police commissioner and got embarrassed. That's not a crime. The articles were only written to bring down his negatives, which by the way have remained high in spite. Come up with some factual examples of illegal or unethical behavior on Rudy's part or move on, or you'll just have to bear more scrutiny.

560 posted on 02/23/2007 10:50:58 PM EST by Gop1040


593 posted on 02/24/2007 7:53:18 AM PST by Gop1040
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To: Alberta's Child
"I've also seen some speculation that George W. Bush hasn't even spoken to Giuliani since that debacle. I don't know if that's true, but as I think back over the last two years I don't recall any public appearance with the two of them together since 2004."

You may be right. Come to think of it, over the last few years I don't think I've seen public appearances of George W. Bush together with Romney, Hunter, Gingrich, McCain, or Tancredo.

BTW, does a appearance at the Columbus Day Dinner at the National Italian American Foundation Gala in DC this past October count?
594 posted on 02/24/2007 8:06:36 AM PST by Gop1040
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To: LtdGovt
But apprantly, some Religious Right organisations feel an incessant need to interfere with 'immoral behavior'.

Rudy feels an incessant need to interfere with gun rights. Hmm - right to bear arms - enumerated in the Constitution. Right to abortion - fabricated by SCOTUS. Some constructionist he is - and you are.

595 posted on 02/24/2007 8:13:42 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: TommyDale; daviddennis

"If there is something posted that is not true, then disprove it. I posted the sources, the burden of proof is on you. Case closed."

You forgot to add:

Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, you are dismissed. The Court of "throw as much mud on the wall and see what sticks" is adjourned. Proceed to your huts and caves and have a nice day.


596 posted on 02/24/2007 8:16:08 AM PST by Gop1040
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To: merry10
I guess it depends on what side you're on.

We all should be on the side of the truth.

597 posted on 02/24/2007 8:21:00 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Antoninus
Thanks, Antoninus. If this thread reaches 1,000 replies, it will be because I've posted a lot of replies myself. LOL.

And if it makes you feel any better . . . the article I linked in the original post only got three replies when I re-posted it back in 2004!

598 posted on 02/24/2007 8:23:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Gop1040
You clearly don't know all of the details about Kerik's background.

Find someone who served in the NYPD with Kerik and ask what he thinks about the guy . . . you'll likely have him laughing his @ss off.

BTW, how did you know my nickname is Dude?

It was just a guess, really. :-)

599 posted on 02/24/2007 8:25:22 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: trisham

Will do, thanks.


600 posted on 02/24/2007 8:26:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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