Testimony of Oscar Juarez: [Cry for Help in Border Patrol Trial of Ramos & Compean]

Sue Bob's Diary ^ | February 12, 2007 | Attorney Jeri Ward

[Moseley]

When I was younger, I saw a movie from the 1950’s about prisoners of war in a Korean POW camp during the Korean war. Some of the prisoners were forced, through torture, to make a propaganda film condemning the United States.

The prisoners made the film—but they sabotaged it by making pop culture remarks and references that only Americans could understand in order to telegraph to their country that they were not traitors and did not agree with what their captors were forcing them to say.

I remembered that movie while reading Oscar Juarez’s testimony explaining why he did not pull his gun or fear for his safety during the confrontation between Aldrete-Davila and Compean that fateful day on February 17, 2005. I remembered it because Juarez’s testimony on that point is so absurd that it is either the testimony of a man who didn’t give a darn about how he performed his job—or a desperate attempt to tell the world that he didn’t mean a word of it and that he was trapped by the prosecution—like a pinned bug,

As I told you here, I received copies of the transcribed testimony of the three agents who testified against Ramos and Compean from Jerome Corsi at WND. I am now discussing the testimony of Oscar Juarez—the supposed eye-witness to the discharge of weapons. His testimony is here

It is evident that the story the prosecution wanted the jury to buy (which it did) was that Border Patrol agents aren’t really supposed to catch people.

[misterrob]

It is evident that the story the prosecution wanted the jury to buy (which it did) was that Border Patrol agents aren’t really supposed to catch people. Everyone knows that.

[YoungAmerican84]

The more I hear about this case, the more it makes me sick to my stomach.

[SoCalPol]

ping

[calcowgirl]

Ping!

(thanks, SCP)

[NormsRevenge]

trapped by the prosecution — like a pinned bug

BumP

[calcowgirl]

Juarez had to be the sleaziest of the bunch. He told 4 (or 5) different stories to the DHS-OIG investigator. In September, 7 months after the incident and being threatened by the Prosecution with an indictment, he must have finally told the story they wanted to hear--that he saw Compean fire a couple shots. Even the DHS-OIG investigator testified that he didn't believe this story. Juarez continued to change his testimony while on the witness stand. None of his story added up.

The thing about bot Juarez and Vasquez's testimony that doesn't make sense, as SueBob points out, is that both of them pretty much stood twiddling their thumbs while they heard gunshots. Neither of them ducked or asked the other where they thought the shots were coming from. Neither of them said they were concerned for their safety. Neither of them said they were concerned for the safety of their fellow officers over the levee. I sure hope this is not how our Border Agents perform.

[FOXFANVOX]

Exactly my feelings, cc. [I didn't think I would make it thru the whole additional transcript but I did.] I simply found it incredulous that the two agents at the van heard gunshots but did not respond. Juarez had a few other far fetched statements as well. One wonders if the feds threatened him with such penalties that he was scared he would mess up or if he was just that goofy by nature.

[calcowgirl]

It's also incredulous when you compare the two stories. Vasquez was less than a minute behind Juarez et al in chasing Aldrete to the ditch. But Juarez says when he arrived, he went down in the ditch, saw Aldrete, saw Compean, saw Aldrete cross the ditch, watched an altercation, saw Aldrete and climb to the top and run past Compean, saw Compean fire shots, etc. and then casually walks back to the top of the ditch by the van. Vasquez says Juarez was "just standing there" by the van when he arrived. That's a whole lot of activity and movement for less than one minute. And Juarez never ever mentioned a thing to Vasquez. The story doesn't add up.

[Bob J]

"I simply found it incredulous that the two agents at the van heard gunshots but did not respond."

It is unrealistic isn't it? The only explanation is they knew Compean was firing at an unarmed target that was far away and almost back to Mexico.

There is no other explanation for their behavior.

[Bob J]

Plus the fact the Juarez says he never heard or saw Ramos, who was the first and only officer to cross the ditch to help Compean and couldn't have been more than 20 feet away from him.

[Bob J]

They were pinned like a bug because their statements and testimony were so contradictory and unbelieveable that no one would believe them. Any of them.

[freeangel]

There seems to be another over at wnd this AM. It will make you gag, too.

[Ajnin]

The environment in the Border Patrol fosters the kind of conduct we have seen in the Ramos/Campean case. You will never get into trouble by not doing your job. If you consistantly do your job you will get in trouble.

[wolfcreek]

Bob, you seem to staying up nights pushing your theory on this case. Could you please tell us what agenda is pushing your unflinching resolve?

[calcowgirl]

Plus the fact the Juarez says he never heard or saw Ramos, who was the first and only officer to cross the ditch to help Compean and couldn't have been more than 20 feet away from him.

Juarez was only a few car lengths behind Ramos, but never saw him. Does not compute.

[calcowgirl]

The only explanation is they knew Compean was firing at an unarmed target that was far away and almost back to Mexico. There is no other explanation for their behavior.

WHEW!!!! And where do you get THAT?!? Your logic skills are lacking, or you have read too much Sutton fiction.

[Bob J]

Trial transcripts show Compean had mentioned to, I think, 2 other agents that he thought Ramos had shot Davilo. I've read the transcripts and at the time Ramos pulled the trigger, Davilo was almost at the edge of the Rio Grande.

The only reason Compean could have thought Ramos dropped Davilo is because he saw Davilo fall to the ground right after Ramos shot and then see him limp back into Mexico.

Agreed, this is an opinion based on trial evidence. I ask you, if we take the testimony of the other agents that Compean said "I think Ramos shot him" at face value, why do you think Compean believed Ramos' bullet hit Davilo? What did he see that made him believe this?

Understood we are in conjecture mode.

[calcowgirl]

One more time... read closely what you said: The only explanation is they knew Compean was firing at an unarmed target ... See anything wrong with that?

[calcowgirl]

More: There is no other explanation for their behavior. See it yet?