Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Can a Traditional American Conservative Win the Presidency and Secure the Nation and our Liberty?
Vanity Opinion | Feb 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/21/2007 6:15:41 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Obviously, the biggest issue for the Democrats in 2008 will be the war. They're betting their entire stake on the hopes that America is fed up with the war dragging on so long, and they're convinced that their big wins in 2006 were due primarily to President Bush's determination to stay the course, versus their own antiwar stance. Hillary is furiously back pedaling trying to distance herself from her own pro war votes as her popularity erodes away and shifts to the up and coming antiwar superstar, Barack "Osama" Obama. And most of the lesser Democrat presidential wannabes are falling all over themselves trying to out coward the front runners. Whomever gets the Democrat nod will be running primarily on the "End the War Now, Bring the Troops Home" ticket.

And, naturally, the Republicans are going to run on the "Fight on to Victory and Secure the Nation" platform. All of the Republican front runners are convinced that they can win on this issue. But, they feel they must pickup some percentage of the Democrat vote and or of the liberal leaning swing vote. So, to varying degrees, the front runners are banking on certain liberal mainstay issues. They're saying they're okay with abortion rights, gay rights, gay unions, gays in the military, gun control, global warming, open borders, illegal alien rights, immigration reform (amnesty), big government entitlement programs or other liberal issues. They seem to be falling all over each other competing for their fair share of the mushy middle vote that may make their day.

So we have one side wrapping up the treasonous antiwar vote (probably around 40% of the total vote) while the other side clearly wraps up the patriotic peace through victory vote (another 40% of the vote). The Democrats will naturally pull in their liberal/socialist base (which is largely the antiwar vote) and the broken glass Republican base will be true to the GOP (their 40% of the vote), although the Christian Right and some of the normally true blue right wing conservatives are growing mighty tired of crawling on bloody stumps looking for scraps.

At any rate, what both sides seem to be ignoring in their fight for the mushy middle may be the 2nd most critical issue of all and an overlooked opportunity for the big win. And that is the fact that half or more of all Americans, regardless of party affiliation, are fed up with illegal aliens flooding into our country through our almost non existent border security. And this during time of war.

The borders must be secured. If the war goes on, an insecure border sets us up for terrorists smuggling in weapons that could kill tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of Americans. Dirty bombs, chemical or biological weapons, etc.

Even if the Democrats are successful with shutting down our Iraq war efforts, the terrorists are not going to stop. In fact, they'll be emboldened. And freed from fighting over there, they're bound to bring their efforts here. They're going to continue hating us and wanting to wipe us off the face of the planet regardless of what the Democrats may do.

We must defend the nation. We must defend our national security. We must seal the borders now. And we must get control over who and what is coming into our country.

Also, Americans are tired of paying the costs of the growing flood of illegals. The costs are measured in terms of lost American jobs, costs of educating their children, health care costs, housing, welfare, gang violence, crime, costs of capturing, prosecuting and incarcerating illegal alien criminals, overcrowding crumbling cities and towns degrading into slums and barrios, failure of the illegals to assimilate or even to learn our language. Press one for English.

If I'm not mistaken, most if not all of the front runners of both parties are either soft on illegal immigration or are outright in favor of wide open borders and awarding constitutional "rights" to illegals if not immediate full citizenship. This is a national disgrace. And if not stopped will lead to an erosion of our national sovereignty and or to disastrous terrorist attacks of historic proportions. Again, our nation and our borders must be secured!

I sincerely doubt that any Democrat candidate is going to run on a platform of securing the borders and I don't recall any of our front running Republicans declaring that they will seal the borders either, so now what?

Are there any Republican candidates out there who will step forward and not only pledge to win the war, but also to place the nation on a secure war footing? Secure the nation? Seal and secure the borders?

I believe that a qualified Republican candidate with a solid conservative track record, including a record of fighting for full national security has a shot of overtaking the current weak (conservatively speaking) front runners and winning the Republican nod. I also believe this candidate will win over the cowardly antiwar, pro illegal immigration, liberal Democrat whether it be Hillary, Osama Obama or whomever.

By the way, why are we so eager to give up on our traditional American conservative values and principles? I don't know about you, but I'm not about to give up fighting for God, country, family, life, liberty and our traditional American heritage. Those who wish to merge with the liberals on these critical American issues are in for a rude awakening.

For those of you who do not understand what traditional American conservatism means, I'll lay out what it means to me. Others may think differently, and this won't be all inclusive, but here are some major points that are important to me:

Traditional American conservatives are not going to deny our God. Are not going to give up our guns (without using them first). We're not going to surrender to the abortionists or to the gay rights agenda. We're not going to cave to global warming pseudo science. We're not going to surrender our national sovereignty to terrorists, illegals, the United Nations or to Democrats! We're not going to surrender to tax and spend liberal Democrats or to tax and spend moderate country club Republicans.

We will not surrender to the progressives, socialists or moderates who wish to shove their big government socialist wealth transfer and or perverted social programs down our throats.

We're going to continue defending the nation, defending our national sovereignty, defending our national security, defending our borders, defending our families, defending our constitution, our liberty and our American way of life.

We stand for and defend the constitutionally separated and limited government as envisioned and set forth in the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution by the Founding Fathers.

We're going to defend our rights. Our rights to free speech, free religion, freedom of assembly, due process, private property, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are not negotiable.

We're going to fight against the activist court. We're going to fight for judges that interpret the constitution according to the straightforward words and definitions as used at the time of the writing and ratification of the document, ie, the original intent.

We are going to fight for stripping the government of its usurpations and expansions from the limited powers enumerated in the constitution.

We stand for and defend our traditional Judeo-Christian God centered American conservative society and family values system.

We believe we were all created equal by our Creator and are endowed with certain unalienable rights, including the rights to life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness, and we intend to defend same.

We believe it is the primary responsibility of the just government empowered by our consent to defend these rights. And that whenever government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; bankcard; borders; conservatism; elections; ghostwriter; homosexualagenda; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; momentum; moralabsolutes
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 321-340341-360361-380381-384 next last
To: Delphinium

LOL Most of this week Ive been a day late and a dollar short!


361 posted on 02/22/2007 4:29:29 AM PST by OMalley (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!!!!! Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 360 | View Replies]

To: Antoninus

I agree. But the point is, would this help promote a conservative victory in the WH race?


362 posted on 02/22/2007 5:42:53 AM PST by zook
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 280 | View Replies]

To: harrowup
I agree with much of what harrowup says here, especially, the really smart ones don't call one another traitors or knuckledraggers.

Reagan's 11th Commandment ought to be kept more on top of mind.

363 posted on 02/22/2007 5:46:49 AM PST by zook
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 355 | View Replies]

To: Sun

The primaries are going to be incredibly important, because you can already tell who the media is liking, and businesses and individuals are not going to be donating large sums of money to candidates the media doesn't like.


364 posted on 02/22/2007 6:13:17 AM PST by af_vet_rr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 359 | View Replies]

To: OMalley

It's hard having a life outside of FR?


365 posted on 02/22/2007 7:01:45 AM PST by Delphinium
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 361 | View Replies]

To: Delphinium

Sometimes LOL

Tommorrow will be an all day freepfest woohoo!


366 posted on 02/22/2007 11:29:31 AM PST by OMalley (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!!!!! Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 365 | View Replies]

To: Seadog Bytes
You're welcome


 

367 posted on 02/22/2007 12:34:11 PM PST by Smartass (The stars rule men but God rules the stars)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 350 | View Replies]

To: Smartass; potlatch; devolve; Lady Jag; NRA2BFree; Cindy; SunkenCiv

I got this in email again today. ...I wonder if that's a 'sign'....grin>


An Old Farmer's Advice:

* Your fences need to be horse-high, pig-tight, and bull-strong.

* Keep skunks and bankers and lawyers at a distance.

* Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.

* A bumble bee is considerably faster than a John Deere tractor.

* Words that soak into your ears are whispered...not yelled.

* Meanness don't jes' happen overnight.

* Forgive your enemies.  It messes up their heads.

* Do not corner something that you know is meaner than you.

* It don't take a very big person to carry a grudge.

* You cannot unsay a cruel word.

* Every path has a few puddles.

* When you wallow with pigs, expect to get dirty.

* The best sermons are lived, not preached.

* Most of the stuff people worry about ain't never gonna happen, anyway.

* Don't judge folks by their relatives.

* Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.

* Live a good, honorable life.  Then when you get older and think back, you'll enjoy it a second time.

* Don't interfere with somethin' that ain't botherin' you none.

* Timing has a lot t! o do with the outcome of a rain dance.

* If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.

* Sometimes you get, and sometimes you get got.

* The biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with, watches you from the mirror every mornin'."

* Always drink upstream from the herd.

* Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.

* Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin' it back in.

* If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.

* Live simply.  Love generously.  Care deeply.  Speak kindly.
    ...Leave the rest to God.



368 posted on 02/22/2007 3:58:25 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 367 | View Replies]

To: devolve; Seadog Bytes
* Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. ...Leave the rest to God.

Words to live by!

So many 'true' comments in the rest of that, huh?

369 posted on 02/22/2007 4:05:31 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 368 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson

Obviously, a whole lot of people in this forum, you included I'm assuming, have thrown your support behind Hunter.

I have some questions...

If Hunter and his organization fail to garner sufficient support to win the GOP nomination, whose fault will that be?

Will it be the GOP's for not recognizing that they should put up a candidate who failed to garner enough support to win?

Will it be the voter's fault for failing to see that Hunter was in all actuality the guy they should have voted for?

Will it be the MSM's fault for concentrating on the candidates with the best name recognition?

Or will it be Hunter's and his team's fault for failing to generate support for themselves?

If you get him nominated, he gets my vote...but he has to get the nomination first, and that's something he has to WIN, not something that he's owed.

Put up the canditate that you're describing in this post, gett him to within striking distance of beating Hillary and the DNC, and he gets my vote.


370 posted on 02/22/2007 4:17:31 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: potlatch

And smell the cheeseburgers


371 posted on 02/22/2007 4:18:20 PM PST by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 369 | View Replies]

To: devolve

"White Castles" in the sky..


372 posted on 02/22/2007 4:21:41 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 371 | View Replies]

To: potlatch


373 posted on 02/22/2007 4:44:36 PM PST by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 372 | View Replies]

To: Seadog Bytes

DITTO.

Thanks Seadog Bytes.


374 posted on 02/22/2007 4:45:47 PM PST by Cindy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 368 | View Replies]

To: devolve

Lol, that's funny!!

Those burgers are on a jungle gym of a drive in!


375 posted on 02/22/2007 4:47:47 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 373 | View Replies]

To: potlatch


Your comment inspired me!

That drive-in graphic did not exist like that before I worked on it - It was badly cropped off on the right side and I had to reconstruct it

I think I'll now make up a graphic with the cheeseburger up top

Like the "Big Boy" drive-ins and others

Float a few cars or dancers out front




376 posted on 02/22/2007 5:11:13 PM PST by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 375 | View Replies]

To: devolve

I almost wrote in my earlier comment about what a wonderful sign that would be on a place like that.


377 posted on 02/22/2007 5:14:15 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 376 | View Replies]

To: potlatch


Just watch

A drive-in will soon be built or remodeled to have that look and feel

With fiberglass and creativity and some time it could be fantastic

Much like seen on floats in parades

I recall carhops on rollerskates in eastern Tennessee at "Sonic" drive-ins









378 posted on 02/22/2007 5:30:07 PM PST by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 377 | View Replies]

To: devolve

Yes, could happen.


379 posted on 02/22/2007 5:31:29 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 378 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
Free Republic is a conservative site. As a conservative site we are pro God, life, family, America, individual rights, Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration, constitutionally limited government, "originalist" judges, separated powers, enumerated powers, unalienable rights, states rights, local control, national defense, national security, border security, sovereignty, Liberty, etc.

We oppose liberalism, socialism, communism, fascism, anarchism, atheism, feminism, abortionism, homosexualism, environmentalism, globalism, and or any other form of tyranny or totalitarianism.

I will be supporting the candidates best suited by word and deed and ability to defend and advance the causes I believe in and to oppose those that I oppose.

If the candidates I support do not win the election, then placing blame will not matter. I will continue to fight for what I believe in and against what I oppose. A pro death, pro gay, pro gun control, pro illegal alien president will get NO support from me or FR on those positions. If he works to win the war, keep the tax cuts, cut spending, cut government, etc, then I will be supporting him on those issues.

It will be a rocky road. Bush's big government, big spending ways made it hard to support him, but at least he was pro national defense, pro life, pro marriage and was a tax cutter and he appointed great judges! Made it a lot easier to stomach the other stuff.

It's gonna be a whole lot harder working with Giuliani, should he win. Especially if he appoints liberal activists or weakens on taxes or the war (yes, the Democrats and the media will pull out all stops on taxes and the war and he might succumb to pressure) or if he becomes the big government, big spender that I suspect he will.
380 posted on 02/22/2007 5:51:31 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 370 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 321-340341-360361-380381-384 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson