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McCain: Iraq War Mismanaged for Years
Breitbart.com ^ | 2/19/2006 | AP Writer

Posted on 02/19/2007 1:01:10 PM PST by LM_Guy

BLUFFTON, S.C. (AP) -- Republican presidential candidate John McCain said Monday the war in Iraq has been mismanaged for years and former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld will be remembered as one of the worst in history. "We are paying a very heavy price for the mismanagement _ that's the kindest word I can give you _ of Donald Rumsfeld, of this war," the Arizona senator told an overflow crowd of more than 800 at a retirement community near Hilton Head Island, S.C. "The price is very, very heavy and I regret it enormously."

McCain, the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, complained that Rumsfeld never put enough troops on the ground to succeed in Iraq.

"I think that Donald Rumsfeld will go down in history as one of the worst secretaries of defense in history," McCain said to applause.

The comments were in sharp contrast to McCain's statement when Rumsfeld resigned in November, and failed to address the reality that President Bush is the commander in chief.

"While Secretary Rumsfeld and I have had our differences, he deserves Americans' respect and gratitude for his many years of public service," McCain said last year when Rumfeld stepped down.

On a two-day campaign swing in South Carolina, McCain fielded questions from the crowd for more than an hour and said the United States can succeed in Iraq with additional troops and a new strategy. McCain has been a strong proponent of using more troops and favors Bush's increase of some 21,500 U.S. forces in the nearly four-year-old war.

I have been saying for 3 1/2 years that we would be in this sad situation and this critical situation we are in today," he said.

McCain's bid for president was sidetracked in South Carolina in 2000 after..

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; iraq; mccain; rumsfeld; wot
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To: LM_Guy
"but I agree with McCain's assessment of DR. I think the bungling of the Iraq war by Rumsfeld is the #1 reason the GOP lost both control of Congress in 2006."

Agreed here as well. And this is from inside knowledge on how Rumsfeld engaged his subordinates. I could elaborate at length on why we are now experiencing this insurgency.

However, it all stems from the fact that when the troop to task analysis was done and the RFF went up for SECDEF review/approval, no one could guarantee to 100% certainty that there would be an insurgency. As such, since the task of Suppress/destroy insurgency was was pulled of the valid tasking list, all the troops associated with the task were pulled as well. To the tune of 100K.

Oops......
21 posted on 02/19/2007 1:21:58 PM PST by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: LM_Guy

The only problem with McCain's assessment is the usual one:

There is no way to know what outcomes would have resulted from different tactics. Things might have gone better, or might have gone worse. Even with the benefit of hindsight, we cannot be certain of alternate outcomes.

For example, more troops might have totally turned off the Iraqi citizens, and they might not have turned out to vote, and might have joined the insurgency in greater numbers.

None of this matters now. Just like our own lives, we learn, adjust, move forward and succeed.

Or not.

Whether we think we can succeed, or think we can't, we are correct.


22 posted on 02/19/2007 1:22:15 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
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To: twonie

I agree with you. I live in Arizona, but fortunately, McCain is usually absent. All talk, no action.


23 posted on 02/19/2007 1:24:33 PM PST by beethoven
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To: abercrombie_guy_38
Does valid criticism count?

If they don't provide their alternate plan, they might as well be John Kerry.

24 posted on 02/19/2007 1:25:20 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: ilgipper
what exactly did Rumsfeld 'bungle'?

Not accepting the surrender of Iraqi forces from Iraqi generals when offered and letting them melt away instead. Dissolving the Iraqi Army. Deferring to the Iraqi government when they protested our actions. Not treating Muqtada al-Sadr like he did Uday and Qusay. Not finishing the job during First Fallujah. Letting the Iraqis write their own constitution accepting Sharia law.

In other words, not being aggressive enough.

25 posted on 02/19/2007 1:25:34 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: LM_Guy
I think the bungling of the Iraq war by Rumsfeld is the #1 reason the GOP lost both control of Congress in 2006.

I don't think he was managing the war in order to win control of Congress, he was managing the war in order to win the War on Terror.

26 posted on 02/19/2007 1:27:19 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: LM_Guy


Now men......let me tell you how to fight a war.




Uh oh, the Barney Fife generals are out of their cubbyholes again. We better listen.
27 posted on 02/19/2007 1:28:18 PM PST by macamadamia
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To: ilgipper

His decision to use a small force, as opposed to a larger one. It worked out fine for the actual invasion, but not for the occupation/pacification. And the small army approach was more a concession to reality than to a philosophical approach.


28 posted on 02/19/2007 1:28:34 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Patron Saint of Mediocrity)
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To: LM_Guy

I disagree. Rummy was one of the brightest SecDefs we've ever had, and is the reason we today aren't trying to fight a 21st century war with WW II tactics and weaponry.


29 posted on 02/19/2007 1:28:45 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: proudpapa

Lincoln "mismanaged" Grant and Sherman right into the top generalship and kicked butt. I'll take that "mismanagement" any time.


30 posted on 02/19/2007 1:29:30 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: ilgipper

"what exactly did Rumsfeld 'bungle'?"

Isn't it obvious? He didn't agree with McPain.


31 posted on 02/19/2007 1:31:41 PM PST by GLH3IL (Truth: The remedy for liberalism.)
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To: LM_Guy
Like on 9/12 McCain or anyone else, or more reality base, any institution knew what we were getting into, and how to go about it.
Even at the end of WWII, we were grossly messing up. You could even say in Europe, that started( =/-) with the Soviet/Nazi invasion of Poland, and ended with eastern Europe in slavery, we screwed up.
We're in this for decades, maybe a hundred years. And, we better win it.

I don't care about the rest of the world, the Saudis, the Egyptians, even if human life still exist in the ME. Just so long as America survives and prospers. McCain is old, nasty and sleezy.
32 posted on 02/19/2007 1:32:32 PM PST by Leisler (REAL ENVIRONMENTALISTS WALK.)
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To: LM_Guy

McCain's mouth has been mismanaged for years.


33 posted on 02/19/2007 1:33:25 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: SaxxonWoods

There should never have been a vote before pacification was achieved. It was a gimmick to justify the war. A military governor was needed to hold the place together until some semblance of order was achieved.


34 posted on 02/19/2007 1:35:13 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Patron Saint of Mediocrity)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

My sentiments exactly, ESPECIALLY in time of war!!!


35 posted on 02/19/2007 1:35:40 PM PST by liveoak4 (Freedom isn't Free!!!)
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To: LS
Lincoln "mismanaged" Grant and Sherman right into the top generalship and kicked butt. I'll take that "mismanagement" any time.

Yeah, but he stuck with McClellan waaaaay too long.
36 posted on 02/19/2007 1:38:26 PM PST by motzman (no matter how much you hate Rudy--the libs hate him more!)
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To: liveoak4

Hey maybe the demo/socialists can bring back McNamara as SECDEF.


37 posted on 02/19/2007 1:41:37 PM PST by marlon
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To: LM_Guy
The Iraq War was over in 2 weeks.

You must be talking about something else?

38 posted on 02/19/2007 1:43:15 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: LM_Guy

"I think the bungling of the Iraq war by Rumsfeld is the #1 reason the GOP lost both control of Congress in 2006."

The post election and exit polls support your claim. Two key factos yielded the loss: Iraq and loss of independent voters, who shifted from voting Republican 2000 and 2004, to voting Democrat in 2006.

Rumsfeld led the war effort. He buck those who argued for more troops.

I recall Colin Powell stated: "you break it, you own it."

Rumsfeld owns the results in Iraq.


39 posted on 02/19/2007 1:43:39 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Cyclopean Squid
I doubt any other tactic would have ultimately succeeded. The Iraqis are simply unable to get past their sectarian differences enough for anything but a strongly authoritarian government to work.

The idea to bring democracy to Iraq, while quite noble, was extremely naive.

Even without the meddling by Iran and Syria, the Sunnis and Shiites would still be blowing each other and us up.

40 posted on 02/19/2007 1:44:41 PM PST by mgstarr (I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore.)
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