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The Man Who Would Not Be King (George Washington)
Heritage Foundation ^ | 2/5/07 | Matthew Spalding

Posted on 02/17/2007 12:45:14 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: johnmark7
"I consider Washington the greatest man, After Jesus of Nazareth, to have ever lived."

He's certainly up there on my list as well. All of our founders were blessed with qualities you list, and together they established the greatest nation this earth has ever known.

21 posted on 02/17/2007 3:34:54 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: RhoTheta

Ping.


22 posted on 02/17/2007 3:39:15 PM PST by Egon ("If all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them??" - Hugh Neutron)
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To: David_G_Burnet

And we have rewarded this truly indespensible Founding Father by taking away his birthday as a Holiday. Now we have "president's day" which also celebrates Buchanan, Harrison, et al.

Very sad - the day America stopped celebrating George Washington's birthday.

This man has always been a particular hero of mine.


23 posted on 02/17/2007 3:51:32 PM PST by Basheva
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To: johnmark7
You're right it's the combimation of the qualities that is amazing. Jefferson and Madison may have been greater in raw intelligence but he was that "Rara Avis" a wise man. It's always a shock to contemplate that Washington thought two terms enough yet FDR was arrogant enough to stand for four terms.

What a breed of giants bestrode the land then!

24 posted on 02/17/2007 4:00:14 PM PST by Timocrat (I Emanate on your Auras and Penumbras Mr Blackmun)
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To: StockAyatollah
Read Team of Rivals. It's a study of the political personalitities and influences of the Civil War era. The expressed intentions and expectations, and how events confounded them or confirmed them. The Civil War was about secession, but secession was about slavery. And secession occured over not over existing slavery but over the expansion of slavery into the southwest and, in principle, nationwide.

All very well to put the worst face on Lincoln - but that is precisely what the southern firebrands did, and it led them to create the facts on the ground which produced the chain reaction which killed so many Americans in the 1860s. Easy enough for people to say this thing or that thing wasn't worth it - but prospectively people made different judgements. Surprisingly enough, </sarcasm> not all of those judgements proved out.


25 posted on 02/17/2007 4:07:26 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: george76

thanks G.

Researchers Re-Create Washington's Face
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26 posted on 02/17/2007 4:32:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Bravo.


27 posted on 02/17/2007 4:36:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Pharmboy; indcons

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1786658/posts?page=26#26


28 posted on 02/17/2007 4:36:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Yes, we fail to realize (aren't taught) that the War Between the States wasn't about Southern slavery.

It was a totally unnecessary war since only a decade or two would have brought all US slavery a natural death. It was simply untenable morally.

Yet, the passions ran so high that war became inevitable. The North would not yield, and the South was determined to have things there way. What an absolute tragedy.


29 posted on 02/17/2007 9:07:54 PM PST by johnmark7
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To: george76
Without Washington, America would never have won its war of independence;

Not belittling President Washington's contributions but if memory serves a little pamphlet by Thomas Paine helped stir quite a few even to begin the move toward final indpendence. From what I've read as late as Winter '75/Spring '76 Washington, among others, saw a possibility of an eventual reconciliation with Great Britain

30 posted on 02/17/2007 9:15:16 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Basheva
Now we have "president's day" which also celebrates Buchanan, Harrison, et al.

And ...*gag* ...Carter.

31 posted on 02/17/2007 11:15:33 PM PST by uglybiker (AU-TO-MO-BEEEEEEEL?!!)
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To: IncPen; BartMan1

interesting ping


32 posted on 02/18/2007 2:27:36 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: wagglebee
..Washington transformed an underfunded militia into a capable force that, although never able to take the British army head-on...

Actually, we did exactly that, perhaps most notably at the Battle of Cowpens where the size of the forces was evenly matched. We also took on and defeated the Hessians at Bennington. And, of course, we took on and defeated the British army at Saratoga.

33 posted on 02/18/2007 4:20:17 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: wagglebee

Washington's greatest contribution to mankind was saying that President should not serve more than two terms.

In setting this precedent, Washington established that the US would always be a democracy. Without it, some Napoleon would have come along and hijacked the democracy at some point in the past.

So, by keeping the US as a democracy, allowing its example to spread around the world, and setting the example that the Presidents and Prime Ministers should not be in power for life (and then pass the mantle on to their sons), Washington established the modern democratic government which is now being adopted slowly worldwide.

The day of the Kings and dictators and tribal chiefs and totalitarian governments is over. The human race now has a better way of governing itself thanks to Washington.


34 posted on 02/18/2007 4:34:36 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: johnmark7
Yes, we fail to realize (aren't taught) that the War Between the States wasn't about Southern slavery.

It was a totally unnecessary war since only a decade or two would have brought all US slavery a natural death. It was simply untenable morally.

Yet, the passions ran so high that war became inevitable. The North would not yield, and the South was determined to have things there way. What an absolute tragedy.

Hard as it is to imagine the US without the territories it took from Mexico in the Mexican War, that war was morally questionable if rather inevitable considering the osmotic pressure of the dynamism of the US economy/population on the porous (yes, even more porous then than now) Mexican border. But having taken the territory, the US had to decide the question of slavery in those territories - and it was utterly unable to do so peacefully.

The moral issue of slavery is a fascinating issue since, as Thomas Sowell points out, slavery was an ancient and global institution with which Christianity, from its inception, had always coexisted (see St. Paul's letter to Philemon in the Bible). Yet, Sowell points out, when Christendom became dominant (as expressed in the global span of the British Empire, encompassing a third of the globe both geographically and in population) Christendom became militant against slavery. And only then was the institution suppressed - to the extent that it has been.

The slaveholding Christians of the South were becoming anachronistic. They were at the top of the food chain so long as they did not accept the paradigm of equality, and they were at risk of a race war if they did accept it. They were uniquely situated to resist the change, and they resisted it aggressively by pushing to extend the domain of their "peculiar institution." Had the politics gone differently in the border states, they might have prevailed. And gradually become more anachronistic. Interesting times, as the Chinese would put it.


35 posted on 02/18/2007 4:56:04 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: wagglebee

Washington was the only one of the Founding Fathers to free his slaves. They were to be freed upon the death of Martha. However, they were freed before she died because fears arose for her safety.

But long before that Washington had prohibited corporal punishment and would not break up slave families.

Though his estate was in financial trouble before his death, when the slaves were freed it completely bankrupted his estate. He was land rich, but money poor.

Being a freed slave was no easy life. At any time they could be re-enslaved, they had great difficulty finding employment or housing. A freed slave in the South was a square peg trying to fit into an socio-economic round hole.

Many chose to remain where they were on the land.

However, Jefferson, for all the grandeur that history has accorded him as being a true "democrat" (mostly because of his marvelous words in the Declaration of Independence) never freed his slaves. He, too, was bankrupt.


36 posted on 02/18/2007 7:07:36 AM PST by Basheva
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To: wagglebee; indcons; Chani; thefactor; blam; aculeus; ELS; Doctor Raoul; mainepatsfan; timpad; ...
Yep--worthy of another ping to the list.

Thanks, wags


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37 posted on 02/19/2007 1:58:28 PM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Pharmboy

bttt


38 posted on 02/19/2007 5:42:36 PM PST by aculeus
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To: Pharmboy

Bump for the General.


39 posted on 02/19/2007 6:58:54 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: wagglebee

Washington will always rank number 1 in my book. Ronald Reagan will always be number 2. The rest can draw lots...


40 posted on 02/19/2007 7:37:34 PM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
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