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I smell something rotten on the Temple Mount (Vanity)
Free Republic | Feb 17 07 | American in Israel

Posted on 02/17/2007 9:15:45 AM PST by American in Israel

There is a real problem being stirred up by the Arabs over the Temple Mount, and I for one think they are up to something no good. Perhaps I am just being paranoid, but the amount of smoke they are generating over this access ramp is far too much for the weight it will carry on its own.

A Little background would help what I am trying to say.

Remember back when the Rabbis of Jerusalem announced that they believed that the Arc of the Covenant was buried in the Temple Mount? Within three months we had Arafat tearing out the whole south western corner of the temple mount with a bulldozer and rock crusher. He claimed that he was just expanding the Mosque.

However, the "great expansion" project seems never to have been completed. A huge earthen ramp was dug, and then paved over with flag stones. But no great Mosque expansion seems to ever have been put in place. I chalked it up to the standard Muslim smoke and mirrors, as Arafat went on a treasure destruction hunt.

But during his little engineering foray he succeeded in pushing out the retaining walls that make up the temple mount. This was no easy achievement, as the stones are huge, and the walls are double thick as they are made hollow with a passage way between the walls. In order to push the outer walls out of place, he had to completely displace the inner walls so far as to push the outer ones out too. The damage he did digging behind the retaining wall with a bulldozer was not just limited to the walls. He caused structural damage to the Al Asque Mosque at the same time. It was reported in the newspapers that the dome of the mosque had cracked.

The Israeli’s closed the area right below the mosque at that time to tourist traffic for fear the mosque could collapse on the tourists.

Also two years ago there was an earthquake that cracked the golden dome mosque, the one made from an ancient Byzantine church. This mosque is not considered “holy”, it is the smaller silver domed mosque in the south west corner that is the religious shrine. The golden dome is just a political statement that Islam dominates over Christianity and Judaism. Written in the inside of the dome in Arabic is a statement that Allah is god, Mohammad is his messenger and that god had no son.

But the worship takes place not in there, but where Arafat was digging, in the silver domed Al Asque.

This is what is fishy: In the three years since the damage has been done to both mosques, the Arabs have built scaffolding around the gold domed mosque and spent many months repairing it. But they have NOT repaired the silver mosque! What they have done, for the last few years is claim that the Jews are secretly digging in the night to damage the mosque.

We know that Arafat did not replace the ancient drainage system after he dug up that area of the temple mount. And in fact, after his digging the water began to run during rains from under the walls of the temple mount and it was running brown as soil was being undermined by the rain. We also know that a retaining wall on the far side of the mosque from Arafat’s dig collapsed outward two years after he dug his huge hole. If that was caused by Arafat’s dig, he had to have displaced the entire mosque foundation.

Now suddenly, in the heavy rains of this season, the Arabs are claiming that the Jews are attacking the Al Asque Mosque because they are digging some holes to bedrock 75 yards away from the Mosque, and not even in the temple mount, but in the area outside the temple mount. And they are not just doing what has been the standard “secret Jewish plot stuff” but rioting in the city and calling for war. There are 2000 riot police camped in the old city right now and they have had to be there all week!

What if the Arabs are generating an excuse to start another all out war? What if they decided to let, or even help the mosque collapse after setting a track record of complaints to try to fix the blame on the Jews?

I smell something rotten in all this strong Arabic propaganda against the archeological dig being done by Israel. And I for one would not want to be a “worshiper” on the temple mount in the coming months. It would be just like the Muslims, to pull the mosque down on their congregation during prayers, for the glory of the martyrdom in the name of Jihad.

Hang on to your hats folks, I think things are about to get interesting.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: islam; israel; jihad; temple; templemount
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To: American in Israel

Very interesting, American in Israel; thanks for your post. I've been wondering about what's really going on with this, suspecting it's a set-up for huge drama...


21 posted on 02/17/2007 10:38:18 AM PST by MonicaG (In hoc signo vinces. The whole world will see justice done.)
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To: American in Israel

bump for later reading on the temple mount/Revelation 13 stuff


22 posted on 02/17/2007 10:45:03 AM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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To: lilylangtree

Tsk, tsk don't say that too loud or you may piss off the Congress and the present administration. Repeat after me; "Islam is a religion of peace".


24 posted on 02/17/2007 10:54:00 AM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: American in Israel
My Rabbi spoke about this today. He talked about denying the past: especially Holocaust Denial and Temple Denial, and that these were methods the Islamists thought they could use to undermine the legitimacy of the State of Israel. Regarding Temple Denial he said that whenever a repair such as is contemplated is to be made on the steps (ramp?) the laws require archaeological digging beneath construction area first to ensure that nothing from the historical past is lost during the construction. He said it is this archaeological digging that the Islamists really object to because it could turn up artifacts which would tend to bolster the notion that the Temple was really built right where everyone knows it was built.

ML/NJ

PS to AiI, I'll be visiting again beginning Mar 9th. Maybe we can have coffee (or something stronger) sometime during my visit.

25 posted on 02/17/2007 10:54:09 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: SolidWood
>What if the Arabs try to get hold of the Ark!?

What if the Arabs
cut a deal with StarFleet like
"Piece of the Action?!"

27 posted on 02/17/2007 11:07:35 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Angry Write Mail

Whether the Ark of the Covenant goes ZAP as you say, I don't know. Christians believe in a new Covenant established by the Founder of Christianity. The Old Covenant, although holy and highly revered in its time, has been superseded by the New.

This concept is the basis of the animosity of Jews for the early Christians. Yet, for the sake of the Jews, I hope that they'll find a remnant of this most important image in their history and that it will not fall in the sacrilegious hands of the Muslim.


28 posted on 02/17/2007 11:20:37 AM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: Quix

"Guess I still believe it regardless of whatever noise about Wyatt."

Quix, what is the "noise" about Wyatt? I recently saw a report on the chariot wheels found in the Red Sea. Is that also in question?


29 posted on 02/17/2007 11:28:50 AM PST by Ping-Pong
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To: American in Israel; Stillwaters

Interesting speculation, and there isn't anything about your suspicions that doesn't hang together. Stay safe.


30 posted on 02/17/2007 11:36:18 AM PST by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim" hour...somewhere)
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To: American in Israel
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

At dawn Germany began its invasion of Poland. The attack was launched without warning, and without declaration of war being given...

The news of the invasion came as a complete surprise to the Polish Government, who have never officially received Hitler's 16-point Plan for a settlement. They heard about the plan, like the rest of the world, via the German News Agency, and also from a British warning which followed Sir Neville Henderson's meeting with Herr Von Ribbentrop a few days ago.

As for the German excuse for invasion, which is 'the invasion by Polish diversionist bands near Gleiwitz', this is described here in Warsaw as a tissue of lies.

31 posted on 02/17/2007 11:46:16 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/ ...if not, http://www.constitutionparty.org)
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To: Ping-Pong

No.

I don't think the chariot wheels have been effectively disproven at all.

I don't think anything has really been disproven.

Just some folks throwing rocks about him as a person and as a lay archeolotist or some such.

But I think most of it is carping and skepticism. We shall see.

I haven't checked the website in months. I think it really depends on God's timing as to what will be revealed when.

Thanks for asking. Please let me know if you find out anything.


32 posted on 02/17/2007 11:58:04 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE)
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To: American in Israel

But during his little engineering foray he succeeded in pushing out the retaining walls that make up the temple mount. .... In order to push the outer walls out of place, he had to completely displace the inner walls so far as to push the outer ones out too.





Isa 30:13 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.


33 posted on 02/17/2007 1:17:30 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Quix

In reference to Wyatt's website: They have removed information about the ark of the covenant as some of his claims didn't agree with new excavations. His site said that as Wyatt has died they are unable to validate his claims in comparison to the new ones. But, the rest is still there - Red Sea crossing, Mt. Sinai, Noah's Ark.


34 posted on 02/17/2007 2:00:04 PM PST by Ping-Pong
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To: Angry Write Mail

Sorry..I meant only God will rule. No Arabs, Jews.


35 posted on 02/17/2007 2:07:49 PM PST by GulfWar1Vet (Let's go to the Farside....)
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To: American in Israel

Outstanding Post Sir


36 posted on 02/17/2007 2:17:59 PM PST by cmsgop ( How do we know he's NOT Mel Torme?)
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To: American in Israel

"What if the Arabs are generating an excuse to start another all out war? What if they decided to let, or even help the mosque collapse after setting a track record of complaints to try to fix the blame on the Jews?"

Knock it down and lets just find out.

W


37 posted on 02/17/2007 2:27:37 PM PST by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: American in Israel

Very interesting bump for later.


38 posted on 02/17/2007 3:15:19 PM PST by winodog (We are being set up for bubba and the beast, part two.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

bump


39 posted on 02/17/2007 3:38:49 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: winodog

same here


40 posted on 02/17/2007 7:09:31 PM PST by agrace (Funny how proponents of socialism never practice it themselves...enjoy your birthday bash, Robert.)
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