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I smell something rotten on the Temple Mount (Vanity)
Free Republic | Feb 17 07 | American in Israel

Posted on 02/17/2007 9:15:45 AM PST by American in Israel

There is a real problem being stirred up by the Arabs over the Temple Mount, and I for one think they are up to something no good. Perhaps I am just being paranoid, but the amount of smoke they are generating over this access ramp is far too much for the weight it will carry on its own.

A Little background would help what I am trying to say.

Remember back when the Rabbis of Jerusalem announced that they believed that the Arc of the Covenant was buried in the Temple Mount? Within three months we had Arafat tearing out the whole south western corner of the temple mount with a bulldozer and rock crusher. He claimed that he was just expanding the Mosque.

However, the "great expansion" project seems never to have been completed. A huge earthen ramp was dug, and then paved over with flag stones. But no great Mosque expansion seems to ever have been put in place. I chalked it up to the standard Muslim smoke and mirrors, as Arafat went on a treasure destruction hunt.

But during his little engineering foray he succeeded in pushing out the retaining walls that make up the temple mount. This was no easy achievement, as the stones are huge, and the walls are double thick as they are made hollow with a passage way between the walls. In order to push the outer walls out of place, he had to completely displace the inner walls so far as to push the outer ones out too. The damage he did digging behind the retaining wall with a bulldozer was not just limited to the walls. He caused structural damage to the Al Asque Mosque at the same time. It was reported in the newspapers that the dome of the mosque had cracked.

The Israeli’s closed the area right below the mosque at that time to tourist traffic for fear the mosque could collapse on the tourists.

Also two years ago there was an earthquake that cracked the golden dome mosque, the one made from an ancient Byzantine church. This mosque is not considered “holy”, it is the smaller silver domed mosque in the south west corner that is the religious shrine. The golden dome is just a political statement that Islam dominates over Christianity and Judaism. Written in the inside of the dome in Arabic is a statement that Allah is god, Mohammad is his messenger and that god had no son.

But the worship takes place not in there, but where Arafat was digging, in the silver domed Al Asque.

This is what is fishy: In the three years since the damage has been done to both mosques, the Arabs have built scaffolding around the gold domed mosque and spent many months repairing it. But they have NOT repaired the silver mosque! What they have done, for the last few years is claim that the Jews are secretly digging in the night to damage the mosque.

We know that Arafat did not replace the ancient drainage system after he dug up that area of the temple mount. And in fact, after his digging the water began to run during rains from under the walls of the temple mount and it was running brown as soil was being undermined by the rain. We also know that a retaining wall on the far side of the mosque from Arafat’s dig collapsed outward two years after he dug his huge hole. If that was caused by Arafat’s dig, he had to have displaced the entire mosque foundation.

Now suddenly, in the heavy rains of this season, the Arabs are claiming that the Jews are attacking the Al Asque Mosque because they are digging some holes to bedrock 75 yards away from the Mosque, and not even in the temple mount, but in the area outside the temple mount. And they are not just doing what has been the standard “secret Jewish plot stuff” but rioting in the city and calling for war. There are 2000 riot police camped in the old city right now and they have had to be there all week!

What if the Arabs are generating an excuse to start another all out war? What if they decided to let, or even help the mosque collapse after setting a track record of complaints to try to fix the blame on the Jews?

I smell something rotten in all this strong Arabic propaganda against the archeological dig being done by Israel. And I for one would not want to be a “worshiper” on the temple mount in the coming months. It would be just like the Muslims, to pull the mosque down on their congregation during prayers, for the glory of the martyrdom in the name of Jihad.

Hang on to your hats folks, I think things are about to get interesting.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: islam; israel; jihad; temple; templemount
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To: ByDesign
.....I tend to think if the Ark was found, word would spread fast......

I won't disagree with that. I have not read the book you cite but have seen at least two different presentations on TV where cameras were taken to a church/temple in Ethiopia said to contain the Ark with in the Holy of Holies

No one, including local high ranking priests are permitted within.

There is a long long tradition placing it there. The heritage there is more credible to me than in some less historically traditional buried location on the Temple mount. I understand points made on tv camera and amatuer writers archeology being suspect.

My personal view is that has been destroyed long long ago.

121 posted on 02/19/2007 11:42:46 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Want a stress free life? vote Republican..)
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To: Quix; Lewite

Thank you Quix - I've been studying some of this teaching, from a different source, for 2 years now and firmly believe it. I don't know all the particulars in this article but as far as the Houses of Israel and Judah being split I agree. The 10 lost tribes are here and God is awakening us to that fact. God scattered us but He never lost us. That's why America is such a blessed nation - One Nation Under God.

Christ was sent unto the House of Israel but, as you said, ALL, or whosoever will, are welcome.


122 posted on 02/19/2007 11:46:32 AM PST by Ping-Pong
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To: holyscroller

I'm on a computer at the office and don't have access to my favorite list but am listing one from Cvengr.

lishttp://www.bibleplus.org/discoveries/Ark_Found.htmt.

Very interesting information.


123 posted on 02/19/2007 11:53:59 AM PST by Ping-Pong
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To: Cvengr

There will still be a Temple rebuilt for and by the Jews. You can chat all you want about the "church age" and no "holy buildings" but the Bible doesn't see it your way. The Jews haven't disappeared from the planet yet.


124 posted on 02/19/2007 1:16:33 PM PST by madison10
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To: All

For those who want to do a little reading on the Ark, from Jewish Virtual Library.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/ark.html


125 posted on 02/19/2007 1:36:49 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: madison10

Jews today have the same access to God the Father as do any other believer. When the Holy Spirit is removed, then another temple might be required.


126 posted on 02/19/2007 7:31:59 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: American in Israel

I smell something rotten on the Temple Mount...............

Maybe someone stepped in dogma poo...........


127 posted on 02/19/2007 7:34:46 PM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Angry Write Mail

"Let the Muslims TRY to appropriate it. Have you read in the Bible the result of even accidentally touching it?
ZAP!"


In that case, let the Muzzies touch it...oh please, oh please!


128 posted on 02/19/2007 7:41:24 PM PST by oneamericanvoice
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To: servantboy777

I tend to believe most of freemasonry is simply deception and false religion, and for many years considered all masons as deceivers, however, the more I've studied it, I tend to believe today that it isn't what goes into the man that defiles him, but what comes out of him.

There might be believers within freemasonry who are indeed Christian believers in fellowship with God, but I suspect the environment which focuses upon good works, yet fails to discern between Divine Good through faith in Christ and human good independent of faith in Christ, merely promotes dead works. The works they produce are indeed good, but only for human perspectives independent of God, thereby parlayed into evil by the Adversary.

Of course there are also a very large percentage of illumiati/masonic ties which are much more sinister and occultic than this. Some mature in righteousness, others mature in unreighteousness, which describes most if not all masonic mid to high level leaders I've seen in the last decade.

It's hard to tell how long this has gone on, however, Scripture reveals to us our Lord and Savior correcting the builders on many an occasion, pointing out that a divided house would not stand. Such points strikes me as very identifiable with the entire structure of freemasonry. Considering they encourage false witness and trickery as methods of advancement, I wouldn;t be surprised, though, if they were far less influential than they imagine themselves, other than being good for nothingness.


129 posted on 02/19/2007 7:42:10 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: madison10

BTW. I don't ascribe to Replacement theology. IMHO, much Prophecy remains to be fulfilled regarding the Israelite nation and the seed of Abraham.

I've closely studied the issue of the Temple, and recognize many popular methods of interpretation hold that the temple will be rebuilt prior to the 2nd Advent, but the more I study Scripture, especially Prophecy and especially prevenient grace, I'm not so sure the allusions to the temple leading up to Armageddon aren't speaking of the believer in the Church Age.

I'm more than willing to further study His Word. What particular passages and line of reasoning do find best to further display His revelation in the Word? i.e. are there some verses, or series and sequence of prophetic books which you have found to better describe this to you? I'm not intending to promote argument, rather I don't follow the Scriptural basis of your contention.


130 posted on 02/19/2007 7:52:14 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: American in Israel

Well, the temple mosque will come down one day to put the true temple back up. Rumor has it that Jews have been waiting for the day to rebuild it and they already have the supplies with which to do so. Interesting, indeed.


131 posted on 02/19/2007 10:12:19 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Interesting "vanity" ping...

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

132 posted on 02/19/2007 10:14:29 PM PST by nutmeg (National Security trumps everything else.)
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To: UnklGene; nutmeg
Did you see Exodus Decoded
http://theexodusdecoded.com/index1.jsp
133 posted on 02/19/2007 11:28:45 PM PST by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: American in Israel; Yehuda

that is interesting!!

Yehuda, remember I told you that the Temple was going to be rebuilt? This would open up a spot!


134 posted on 02/20/2007 3:14:05 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: redgolum

agreed.


135 posted on 02/20/2007 6:48:47 AM PST by kimmie7 (Liberals embrace the sin......Christians embrace the sinner.)
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To: GulfWar1Vet

I used to fear HIS return. Now, I CRAVE it. Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus!


136 posted on 02/20/2007 6:55:11 AM PST by kimmie7 (Liberals embrace the sin......Christians embrace the sinner.)
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To: Ping-Pong

ooh ooh! could you point me to that one??? please????


137 posted on 02/20/2007 6:57:59 AM PST by kimmie7 (Liberals embrace the sin......Christians embrace the sinner.)
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To: Ping-Pong

I found it. Google is our friend, sometimes.


138 posted on 02/20/2007 7:01:27 AM PST by kimmie7 (Liberals embrace the sin......Christians embrace the sinner.)
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To: festus
So you think the arabs are up to no good and looking to start all out war ?

Depends...are they breathing?

139 posted on 02/20/2007 7:03:43 AM PST by kimmie7 (Liberals embrace the sin......Christians embrace the sinner.)
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To: American in Israel

My prayers are with you, FRiend.

Not much longer now, I think.


140 posted on 02/20/2007 7:04:50 AM PST by kimmie7 (Liberals embrace the sin......Christians embrace the sinner.)
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