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1 posted on 02/16/2007 6:34:38 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 02/16/2007 6:35:23 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Science will continue to be the best friend of the unborn...think of all the things that will be revealed in ten or twenty years


3 posted on 02/16/2007 6:41:16 AM PST by Dansong
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4 posted on 02/16/2007 6:46:01 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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When my wife found out she was pregnant with our first child she had to get an initial ultrasound. In the few moments that ultrasound lasted she changed forever. It's like we were kids on the way to the doctor's office, and when we left there we were parents.

A law requiring abortion clinics to conduct a thorough ultrasound would change allot of minds. It wouldn't be a violation of "the right to choose", it would be facilitating an informed choice.

5 posted on 02/16/2007 6:54:34 AM PST by KoRn
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"They talk about the joys of childbirth, which can certainly be a joy," says Melissa Reed, executive director of NARAL's North Carolina chapter, "but they can make a woman feel very intimidated about making any other choice in her life."

Like murder, for example. There's a bill before the General Assembly in Georgia right now to require women seeking an abortion to have an ultrasound beforehand and to be given the chance to see it before making up their mind. Needless to say, the abortionists are fighting it at every turn.

6 posted on 02/16/2007 6:57:25 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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This made me cry.

I have been reading about Wilberforce and his tireless crusade against human slavery in England. If the disgrace of slavery burdened England, how much more should abortion weigh down our conscience. It is a disgrace. Life goes on while we slaughter one million or more babies per year, working at making it easier and faster with a human pesticide pill, etc.

What will it take to make our country see how evil we have become?

I applaud these efforts.


7 posted on 02/16/2007 7:00:06 AM PST by sine_nomine (The United States...shall protect each of them against invasion. Article IV, 4. US Constition)
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Our church partners with a women's center here to help raise money for ultrasound equipment so women can see who it is they are aborting. The majority of women who have the ultrasounds never have the abortion.
Shhhhhh....keep it quiet from Planned Parenthood.


9 posted on 02/16/2007 7:00:16 AM PST by 4everontheRight (Pur)
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This is the way to do it..not by getting in their faces and calling them baby killers. Not by parading out a bunch of wacked women to tell them how having an abortion ruined their lives. It's called changing hearts and minds. Not the other way around. have to see things for themselves. I've been saying this for years. But people would rather call me names here. So be it.


13 posted on 02/16/2007 7:20:28 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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This sounds like a great idea. What do you think?


15 posted on 02/16/2007 7:26:12 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Captain, I must protest! I am not a merry man! - Lt. Worf)
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It is astonishing to me how many churches gloss over the simplest requirments for Christianity, my guess is so as not to "turn off" marginal membership:

Acts 15:20
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Acts 21:25
As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

How many "Christian" churches turn a blind eye to fornication? How many even discuss what constitutes adherence to these minimum standards for purity? I doubt ANY of them do it, seeing as "blood pudding" is popular in Europe.
19 posted on 02/16/2007 8:15:43 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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THIS is how you end abortion - not by force, but by showing them.


20 posted on 02/16/2007 8:17:06 AM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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I do ultrasounds at a crisis pregnancy clinic in Orange County California. It is a very powerful tool to let the woman see the baby.

One area the article is misleading is the medical necessity for the ultrasound. We make sure the pregnancy is in the uterus, an ectopic pregnancy is a life threatening condition. We can date the pregnancy to see how far along they are and most importantly we confirm that it is a viable pregnancy if there is a heartbeat. 15% -20% pregnancies end in miscarriage.

I've had several woman come in planning to abort, but it wasn't a viable pregnancy and they miscarried. I was so glad they didn't go through the trauma of the abortion.

As for pressuring or judging woman, at our clinic that is not true. Most of our clients that still decide to abort bring their pregnant friends because they know we can help. We are often told how warm and caring we are, not like Planned Parenthood.

Our clinic also has 3 maternity homes, a thrift shop where girls can get vouchers for maternity clothes, car seats, etc. We also offer free parenting classes where by coming they earn new baby clothes and diapers.

As the article says, we are saving one woman at a time.

21 posted on 02/16/2007 8:24:57 AM PST by Angel
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Good vs. evil.

I read the first few paragraphs. I can only take so much of Time's typical indifference to evil.

Right, wrong? Who knows? Who's to say?

It's murder. It's evil. We're to say and do something to stop the slaughter.

God bless the workers and volunteers at pregnancy resource centers everywhere.

22 posted on 02/16/2007 9:05:19 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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Nice article, in general, but I'm bothered by the way that the pro-lifers have to prove they are "open-minded" and can "grow to be more open" to the pro-abort point of view, but the pro-aborts aren't required to change.

Did I miss a part about the pro-aborts "growing"?

26 posted on 02/16/2007 9:11:18 AM PST by syriacus (30,000 Americans died, in 30 months, to release South Korea from Kim Il-sung's tyranny.)
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More evidence of a broad but true general principle: Exposure of any kind is the enemy of the Left. The more people know about nearly every issue, the more likely they will take the conservative/libertarian view.

For me, abortion is a simple human rights issue. The pro-abortionists do not want us to know that a baby in the womb is still a baby -- not an appendix or tonsil that can be discarded. Nearly every argument used to justify abortion could also be used to justify infanticide.

Consequently, expect the Left to soon be fully mobilized to discredit this place if not shut it down.


28 posted on 02/16/2007 9:14:47 AM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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While no one disagrees with that, some do wonder how much help will be available for these families in the years to come, with school, housing and health care, since according to the Guttmacher Institute, 3 out of 4 women contemplating abortion cite economic pressure as a reason.

Better dead than poorly fed?

29 posted on 02/16/2007 9:16:50 AM PST by syriacus (30,000 Americans died, in 30 months, to release South Korea from Kim Il-sung's tyranny.)
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"You knit me together in my mother's womb. I am wonderfully and marvelously made." Psalms 139.


42 posted on 02/16/2007 2:30:54 PM PST by CobraJet
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YES, YES, YES, YES, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


44 posted on 02/16/2007 4:03:32 PM PST by Captain Gates ('kill your TV')
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52 posted on 02/22/2007 7:17:19 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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The growth in the movement has raised other alarms with pro-choice groups. They point out that while counselors at crisis pregnancy centers lay out the physical and psychological risks associated with abortion, they don't mention that the risk of death in childbirth is 12 times as high and that many women who get abortions experience only relief.

I'm sure that most of the time, when someone kills their spouse and makes it look like an accident so they can use the insurance money to pay off their debt, the feeling they experience is relief. That doesn't mean financial counselors should be telling people that when they advise someone who's deep in the red.

53 posted on 02/22/2007 7:25:22 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Logic" is as meaningless to a liberal as "desert" is to a fish.--Freeper IronJack)
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