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The Gospel according to Darwin
National Review Online ^ | February 12, 2007 1:30 PM | John G. West

Posted on 02/14/2007 2:07:15 PM PST by Tim Long

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To: narby

You must love to get patted on the head by your teachers. I bet you think you came to a self-investigated rational conclusion while believing everything that people told you.


21 posted on 02/14/2007 2:32:50 PM PST by dan1123
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To: CptRepublican
Plus Darwin was a die hard Christain. He never denied creationism.

I believe he was an agnostic.

22 posted on 02/14/2007 2:35:05 PM PST by Tim Long (Two of my favorite creationists: Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:4) and Ronald Reagan)
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To: narby

My Southern Baptist grandmother bad mouths Catholics too. I just can't stand it. And there is not use in telling her that Baptist and Catholics agree on the fundementals of Christianity. And I don't understand why people think that science and evolution are a threat to Christianity. Some people just don't realize science studies natural processes, which is completely separate from the supernatural(God). There are many people, including the Vatican and Pope John Paul II, that realize that one can accept science and believe in God and Christianity. I've certainly had no trouble accepting science and retaining my Christian beliefs.


23 posted on 02/14/2007 2:36:30 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are realistic and pragmatic!!)
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To: eleni121

I couldn't agree more. Looking at the threads on usenet, slashdot, digg, and here, it seems like evolutionists are so full of themselves that they either pat themselves on the back for uncritically believing what they were taught in school (while thinking they are so smart), or firing off ad-hominems at creationist straw-men of their imaginations.


24 posted on 02/14/2007 2:36:37 PM PST by dan1123
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To: Tim Long; CptRepublican
Darwin started out as a Christian but drifted toward agnosticism
25 posted on 02/14/2007 2:37:40 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are realistic and pragmatic!!)
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To: sgtbono2002
Wasn't but a few hundred years ago that the Church taught that the Earth was flat and was the center of the universe and anyone who said otherwise was branded as a heretic...

Science and creationism are not incompatible

26 posted on 02/14/2007 2:44:03 PM PST by Domandred
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To: My GOP; narby

Dawkins says that evolution proves religion is a lie. He leaves no room for theistic evolutionists.


27 posted on 02/14/2007 2:47:19 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Tim Long

Sounds like a Clint Eastwood movie i.e. the Good (Lincoln), the bad (Darwin), and you'd need some sort of a really good candidate for the ugly part of it, possibly Madeline Albright. She's definitely ugly enough to have been born in 1809....


28 posted on 02/14/2007 2:49:13 PM PST by rickdylan
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To: xzins
Dawkins says that evolution proves religion is a lie. He leaves no room for theistic evolutionists.

I tend to agree that the debate needs to be framed in these terms. Sort of the "I wish that you were cold or hot" scenario. People need to pick naturalism or supernaturalism. Theistic Darwinism is rather silly.

29 posted on 02/14/2007 2:50:41 PM PST by Tim Long (Two of my favorite creationists: Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:4) and Ronald Reagan)
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To: eleni121
That's the operative word for evos: Funny.

Elections are turned by just one or two percent of the votes.

When conservatives chase away people who are scientifically literate, do you think there will be enough creationists left to win a vote?

30 posted on 02/14/2007 2:51:26 PM PST by narby
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To: Tim Long

Whatever anyone's belief is about evolution, this Darwin's Day event has a anti-religious element to it, and that may be the primary motivation for holding this event.


31 posted on 02/14/2007 2:52:28 PM PST by microgood
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To: dan1123
You must love to get patted on the head by your teachers.

Creationists are such nice people.

32 posted on 02/14/2007 2:52:41 PM PST by narby
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To: xzins

I didn't say I agreed with Dawkins. I very much dislike Dawkins, disagree with his premise science disproves God, and find him to be an intolerant, arrogant jerk.


33 posted on 02/14/2007 2:53:18 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are realistic and pragmatic!!)
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To: narby
When conservatives chase away people who are scientifically literate, do you think there will be enough creationists left to win a vote?

Only literate in nonsense. Darwinists don't tend to be the strongest conservatives. When you believe humans are descendents of ooze, politics don't seem that important.

34 posted on 02/14/2007 2:54:00 PM PST by Tim Long (Two of my favorite creationists: Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:4) and Ronald Reagan)
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To: dan1123
Thanks dan...I'll take you up on that...you bible beaters are so predictable. Yawn...
35 posted on 02/14/2007 2:54:05 PM PST by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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To: Tim Long

"Theistic Darwinism is rather silly."

I guess Pope John Paul II was silly then.


36 posted on 02/14/2007 2:54:27 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are realistic and pragmatic!!)
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To: USMMA_83

Please explain when the "dark ages" ended and the "Age of Reason" began.


37 posted on 02/14/2007 2:54:54 PM PST by hellbender
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To: sgtbono2002
Its a bit hard to understand how people who can except the story of the birth of Jesus Christ, the basis for Christianity and yet cannot accept creationism.For non-Christians it may not be a problem.

Why? If creationism is correct, then God is playing one heck of a mind game on us. On the other hand, the birth of Jesus is not so at odds with the available evidence (especially if taken in its original, without the translation problems such as "virgin" for "young woman," etc.)

38 posted on 02/14/2007 2:55:10 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: xzins
Dawkins says that evolution proves religion is a lie. He leaves no room for theistic evolutionists.

Evolution proves that Genesis is not literal. Beyond that is irrelevant.

39 posted on 02/14/2007 2:55:26 PM PST by narby
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To: My GOP
I guess Pope John Paul II was silly then.

You're talking to the wrong person. Fiercely Protestant.

40 posted on 02/14/2007 2:56:24 PM PST by Tim Long (Two of my favorite creationists: Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:4) and Ronald Reagan)
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