Posted on 02/14/2007 7:14:04 AM PST by meg88
Giuliani is Best GOP Hope in Florida February 12, 2007
(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Republican Rudy Giuliani holds an early lead in the Sunshine State, according to a poll by the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.
47 per cent of respondents in Florida would vote for the former New York City mayor in the 2008 United States presidential election, while 44 per cent would support Democratic New York senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
In other match-ups, Rodham Clinton leads Arizona senator John McCain by four points, and holds an 18-point advantage over former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. McCain leads former North Carolina senator John Edwards by one point, and Illinois senator Barack Obama by two points.
In 2004, Republican George W. Bush carried Florida’s 27 electoral votes, with 52 per cent of all cast ballots. In 2000, weeks of recounts and court injunctions concluded in a 537-vote victory for Bush over Democrat Al Gore. Since 1972, the only Democrats to win the Sunshine State in a presidential election are Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Bill Clinton in 1996.
Bush is ineligible for a third term in office. The next United States presidential election is scheduled for November 2008.
Polling Data
If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were (the Democrat) and (the Republican), for whom would you vote?
Rudy Giuliani (R) 47% - 44% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R) John McCain (R) 43% - 47% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R) Mitt Romney (R) 34% - 52% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R) John McCain (R) 43% - 42% John Edwards (R) John McCain (R) 42% - 40% Barack Obama (R)
Yep. This is going to be a miserable 18 months.
I'm beginning to think the best thing might be for the president to serve a single 6 year term with no chance for re-election. They can really only get 5-6 good years in anyway. Their 3rd year is spent campaigning for a 2nd term and soon after the mid-term elections of the 2nd term they are "lame duck" anyway. Maybe it's just me, but I've never liked seeing a sitting president having to campaign and be campaigned against. I don't think it's a good thing for the country.
Repeat of talking point #11 - a nice use of the liberal technique of repeating a point over and over again to give it relevance.
It is best for the GOP to look at their electoral history and realize that they win when they run center-right, and lose when they run left.
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At this stage of the campaign, we "anti-Rudies" shouldn't be maligned on a conservative site for pushing for a strong, conservative candidate. Tell me how well pushing "electability" over philosophy has worked in CA...
And a third repeat of talking point #11.
It is the responsibility of the party leaders to promote candidates who can hold the base together. Pushing a guy at the far left of the party is completely irresponsible given the history of the GOP losing when it drifts leftwards.
Hillary is running as a Scandinavian Social Democrat - where the MSM and the coastal urban elites want to go.
Free Republic-approved candidates aren't running on platforms where any significant percentage of the population wants to go.
..it will be very interesting to see how he deals with the 2nd Amendment issue in places like Duval County and in the Panhandle...
Also, it isn't a hatefest over Rudy himself. I'm sure he's a very nice fellow. It's a backlash reaction to a supposedly conservative-leaning political party that keeps pushing left-leaning candidates and expecting conservatives to hold their noses to vote for the "lesser of two evils".
I'm not so sure there is a lesser any more. We are careening toward socialism in this country and the GOP has helped--not hindered--this process.
Rudy is well to the left of GWB on key issues. Rudy is basically a political twin of Joe Lieberman.
LOL! How are people going to know whom to vote for, if the guy can't spell his own name?
In which case, one would think that humility and intellectual honesty would prevent you from making sweeping claims regarding the effect a President has on the # of abortions taking place, and concede the point of people who say this effect is marginal, at best, as I did earlier in this thread.
The key point is that a barbaric and horrific practice has been halted.
To what extent was it even actually occurring? And/or to what extent are the people who might have gotten PBAs (if there are any) simply having "regular" abortions now, making the actual effect nil (at least if it's the act of abortion, and not the type, that you care about)? Since you have no data, as you've admitted, the answer is "you don't know". So what's your point?
Suppose I enact a ban on killing people by putting them in a spaceship and ramming it into an approaching comet. A barbaric practice, to be sure. Do I get to boast that I saved lives, and that I "halted" a barbaric practice?
Get a life! We're in the primaries!
Suggest a feasible center-right candidate, by all means. Vote for him in the primary - knock yourself out.
But threats to defect, or go third-party, if Giuliani does win the nomination, are truly idiotic. That is all I am saying.
What if everyone votes for a "Rudolf Guiliani"?
Someone out there may be very surprised to find themselves elected President!
I was countering this nonsensical spin:
It's not like he is going to personally go down and open up an abortion clinic.
And now you have the gall to question MY intellectual honesty? The same folks who have been selling Rudy as a conservative have the nerve to demand intellectual honesty from conservatives when they refuse to practice such themselves - and the conservatives are making FACTUAL CRITICISMS?
That's another stock Clintonista technique - demand from the other side what you are not doing yourself.
Are you really sure you want to even pull this crap?
Dear Rudy-booster,
That isn't the choice before us... THIS IS THE PRIMARIES! Instead of searching for electability as the sacred virture, how about focusing on conservatism on a conservative website!
Of course not, but people (I don't know if you are one) who threaten to defect which, objectively, would help Hillary Clinton become President, should Giuliani win the nomination, do deserve to be maligned.
By the time the primaries are held, he may be on the ballot as "Gilligan"!
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