Posted on 02/14/2007 7:14:04 AM PST by meg88
Giuliani is Best GOP Hope in Florida February 12, 2007
(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Republican Rudy Giuliani holds an early lead in the Sunshine State, according to a poll by the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.
47 per cent of respondents in Florida would vote for the former New York City mayor in the 2008 United States presidential election, while 44 per cent would support Democratic New York senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
In other match-ups, Rodham Clinton leads Arizona senator John McCain by four points, and holds an 18-point advantage over former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. McCain leads former North Carolina senator John Edwards by one point, and Illinois senator Barack Obama by two points.
In 2004, Republican George W. Bush carried Florida’s 27 electoral votes, with 52 per cent of all cast ballots. In 2000, weeks of recounts and court injunctions concluded in a 537-vote victory for Bush over Democrat Al Gore. Since 1972, the only Democrats to win the Sunshine State in a presidential election are Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Bill Clinton in 1996.
Bush is ineligible for a third term in office. The next United States presidential election is scheduled for November 2008.
Polling Data
If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were (the Democrat) and (the Republican), for whom would you vote?
Rudy Giuliani (R) 47% - 44% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R) John McCain (R) 43% - 47% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R) Mitt Romney (R) 34% - 52% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R) John McCain (R) 43% - 42% John Edwards (R) John McCain (R) 42% - 40% Barack Obama (R)
Looks like hillary is a conservative republican now too.
That's a new one. Have to add that to the Rudy booster talking point compendium that I'm compiling.
So having shot down the bogus claim that the president can't do anything to stop abortions, you turn around and belittle the fact that fully-formed children are no longer ripped apart.
More depravity from the Rudy boosters.
Translation: there is an active movement among many of you to help Hillary Clinton become President if Rudy wins the nod.
Boortz?
Rudy standard talking point #5. His opponents demand purity (this one is a close relative to Rudy talking point #4, that opponents are single-issue voters).
If only Rudy had one or two variances from core conservative values. Sorry, but he has at least six, and the list keeps growing. He's pro-choice. Pro-gun-control. Pro-amnesty. Pro-gay rights. Pro-CFR. And new to the list, pro-global warming.
The best way to win the fight for the "moderate" swing voter is to have the best and strongest message. If that message is socialism, then we've lost anyway. Having both primary candidates for president espousing socialism to get the middle... means there is no victory to be had.
Why is this so hard for our GOP "leadership" to understand?
I'd go for that too :)
Rudy talking point #11. Being opposed to Rudy means opponents want Hillary to win.
The myopia of the GOP leadership to historical patterns of GOP wins and losses is stunning. If the GOP runs center-right, they win. If they drift leftwards, they lose. Rudy is not a drift leftward, he is a hard turn to port.
That's because many people here are not merely "working against him in the primaries", but threatening/promising that they would vote against him in the general election if he won the nomination.
This is either (1) completely stupid, or (2) a total bluff, a metaphorical "suicide threat", an attempt at a circular, bootstrapped argument against Giuliani in the primaries ("you better not vote for him now because, um, if you do I'll throw the election to Hillary"), invented by people who have no real argument against him.
In either case the people saying this deserve to have their arguments shot down and scorn heaped upon them. Whether the shoe fits you is for you to say.
That is driving me CRAZY!
I have seen:
Guilani
Guiliani
Gilliani
I'm starting to think that this man has a problem like Col. Muammar Kaddafi/Qaddafi/Qadhafi/Khadafy.
I'm just asking for a source to back up your implicit assertion.
# of PBAs/yr occurring before the PBA ban = ?
# of PBAs/yr occurring after the PBA ban = ?
You have no such data. Right?
Therefore, it's better if Hillary Clinton serves as U.S. President from 2009-2016.
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And if, as I suspect, Richardson eventually emerges as the Dem nominee, Rudy will be buried by the Hispanic turnout.
Stock talking point - demand numbers that aren't available. The ban is recent enough that we don't have numbers for post ban PBAs.
The key point is that a barbaric and horrific practice has been halted.
If this is all just about beating Hillary here is one way to do it.
Have Rudy keep all of his current views, and come out against the War on Terror. That would push a lot of the supposed mushy middle to him.
No. It means (if they oppose him in the general election) they will help her win, de facto. Of course they may not "want" this predictable outcome of their actions, which just means they are in denial.
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