Posted on 02/14/2007 2:19:51 AM PST by ajolympian2004
Conservative Republicans will make a huge mistake if they fail to treat Rudy Giuliani as a serious option for the 2008 presidential nomination. The former New York mayor may have a liberal record on abortion and gay rights - actually, there's no "may" about it - and his messy personal life includes three marriages, but his record as mayor was at times Reaganesque in its willingness to battle an entrenched liberal establishment along a host of fronts. Those who have forgotten his record, or only followed it after 9/11, should read Steven Malanga's article "Yes, Rudy Giuliani is a Conservative" in the winter issue of City Journal (online at city-journal.org). It recounts his groundbreaking initiatives on crime, welfare and dependency, his relentless attempts to reform the public school system (his failure there persuaded him to embrace vouchers), his disdain for social engineering, and his understanding of how high taxes suffocate an entrepreneurial culture.
Giuliani also appreciated the critical role that intact families play in maintaining a healthy society with well-adjusted children, even if his own behavior did not always bear this out.
But if you really want evidence of Giuliani's credentials as a credible Republican candidate, you need to know only this single fact: In the 1990s, the political left in New York despised him. They demonized him without pause, while peddling hysteria about the calamitous effects his supposedly mean-spirited policies would usher in (but didn't).
Put it this way: Even if Giuliani is unacceptable to the social conservatives who dominate the GOP's base, they ought to give the man his due. No candidate so far in the running has jousted more with their own enemies, and none boasts more victories to his credit, either.
(Excerpt) Read more at rockymountainnews.com ...
Bill Clinton and other liberals were regularly beat up on FR over partial birth abortion and a number of other liberal things in the past. When we turn our ire on a so-called Republican who believes and supports things almost identical to Bill Clinton, then WE get trashed. The Rudybots want to complain now about a double standard where there is none except for the double standard that THEY themselves are demonstrating.
Yeah, sure.
But that purist conservatives don't mind if a child walks by and sees this image doesn't surprise me at all. There's a reason Reagan talked about the extreme right.
You sound just like Hillary with your "it's for the children" routine. I think it's important that the PBA issue cannot be santized. Pictures of Holocaust victims make people uncomfortable as well. Doesn't mean they should be pushed away.
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I do believe I quoted your post in my reply. I really must commend you on your consistency. It's the rare person indeed who can stay on topic so successfully.
No. But I expect at least 50%. Guiliani ain't even close. Mitt Romney is an opportunistic liar. McCain is McCain. If that is what the GOP offers, then it ain't my party and I'll skip that line of the ballot.
So you question my character because I have said I'll post spam favorable to Rudy now that Jim has ruled spam is okay, do I have that right?
Wow. You must be just about perfect.
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As I said previously, your post revealed your character. As does this one.
Mr. Robinson dictates the rules of this forum, as surely you must know. I can't think of a more gracious host, particularly given some of the comments directed toward him recently.
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Wow. You must be just about perfect.
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Not really. No, please, it's embarrassing.
All right. You win. My husband thinks so too.
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Mitt Romney needs to lose that plastic, used-car-salesman smile.
If you "spam" things in a campaign for the most liberal Republican presidential candidate in the history of the known universe on a conservative forum, you may not be happy with the results. It will go over like an abortion in church, to coin a phrase.
ROTFLOL!
Some things just don't fit well.
Oh give me a break. I love Jim and FR but he's a FReeper too and there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with him from time to time.
You won't ZOT me, right Jim? (Trembles nervously)
You're an idiot.
So you will lose a chance to move to the center and unintentionally help elect the Hilldabeast. Win the battle and lose the war- Sound familiar?
Gotta wonder why he's endorsing Rudy.
If civil unions are ever officially recognized, then they will have to come with benefits. It's all about the legality of the union. If you begin by recognizing the union, it would be unconstitutional not to give them the benefits of an officially recognized union. Gay rights activists are not fighting for a piece of paper to frame and hang on their wall.
That's quite a stretch.
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