Posted on 02/14/2007 2:19:51 AM PST by ajolympian2004
Conservative Republicans will make a huge mistake if they fail to treat Rudy Giuliani as a serious option for the 2008 presidential nomination. The former New York mayor may have a liberal record on abortion and gay rights - actually, there's no "may" about it - and his messy personal life includes three marriages, but his record as mayor was at times Reaganesque in its willingness to battle an entrenched liberal establishment along a host of fronts. Those who have forgotten his record, or only followed it after 9/11, should read Steven Malanga's article "Yes, Rudy Giuliani is a Conservative" in the winter issue of City Journal (online at city-journal.org). It recounts his groundbreaking initiatives on crime, welfare and dependency, his relentless attempts to reform the public school system (his failure there persuaded him to embrace vouchers), his disdain for social engineering, and his understanding of how high taxes suffocate an entrepreneurial culture.
Giuliani also appreciated the critical role that intact families play in maintaining a healthy society with well-adjusted children, even if his own behavior did not always bear this out.
But if you really want evidence of Giuliani's credentials as a credible Republican candidate, you need to know only this single fact: In the 1990s, the political left in New York despised him. They demonized him without pause, while peddling hysteria about the calamitous effects his supposedly mean-spirited policies would usher in (but didn't).
Put it this way: Even if Giuliani is unacceptable to the social conservatives who dominate the GOP's base, they ought to give the man his due. No candidate so far in the running has jousted more with their own enemies, and none boasts more victories to his credit, either.
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Sort of strange that it's okay for a Presidential candidate to not oppose the procedure, but it is so offensive that it cannot be shown.
Then take it up with the forum owner. That image has never been accepted at FR and anyone who has posted it has been told to stop. But I'm sure you knew you that.
I was merely making a point. I have seen the real thing on a video, and lost my lunch. If more people were shown this procedure, it would go a long way in limiting abortions.
Oh, I agree, but the policy of FR is to never show the image and so you'd have to lobby the forum owner to get the policy changed.
Like I said, I was merely making a point -- not lobbying to show the picture on FR.
The forum owner restored the post.
Why are you defending the indefensible? Partial birth abortion is butchery.
Jim says he's ok with leaving it up. Thanks.
Thank you both.
Thank you for answering me. I appreciate it.
Even on television when they are going to show this graphic they warn the viewers. If you're okay with spam and this kind of graphic now, that's good to know, although I just love how the rules change depending on which candidate is in favor.
You might wish to ask Rep. Sessions (98% lifetime conservative rating) that question you asked me. Let me know what he says.
Oh, and why don't you show me where I'm defending partial birth abortion? I'll wait for your answer but know it won't be forthcoming because you're engaging in hyperbole.
My pleasure.
Welcome.
As long as you're answering questions, where did posts 71 and 72 go?
I've just never seen numbers skipped like that.
Most interesting.
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Me either. Strange.
Post #71 contained an admonishment to stop posting the imagine in question, but that was before Jim's clarification. Post #72 was quoting #71.
Thanks. I'm just used to seeing the "post removed" placemarker.
It's a powerful little Mod tool called "WIPE" we use only sparingly ;)
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