Republican Calls For Email And IM Monitoring

VUNet ^ | 2/9/07 | Iain Thomson

[steve-b]

bill introduced to the US House of Representatives would require ISPs to record all users' surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely.

The bill, dubbed the Safety Act by sponsor Lamar Smith, a republican congressman from Texas, would impose fines and a prison term of one year on ISPs which failed to keep full records....

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

America is at that awkward stage.
It is too late to work within the system,
but too early to shoot the bastards.

- Claire Wolfe

[Calpernia]

You need to start a color code system for nanny pings. Something like: babysitter, nanny watch, dictator alert, Stalin has risen, run!

[AngelesCrestHighway]

Just shows the major disconnect between so called Republicans and the hope for smaller government....

[TomGuy]

First thought: It wouldn't survive the first court challenge.

Second thought: With some of the recent state and Federal court decisions, it might become law. CFR did; the Clinton Telecom bill did; and both of this had obvious unconstitutional provisions that the courts let slide into law.


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This is another attempt to control the Internet. Under the guise of terrorism or 'for the children' or other such shellgaming. It is little different that what both Hillary and John McCain would like -- to control the Internet.


IIRC, Echelon or a similar program is supposed to do this kind of thing, already. It, however, requires a court order. [Recall that x42 had to produce his emails -- some 32,000 of them -- to the court/prosecutor.]

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Also included is a 20-year "jail tariff" for anyone ordering child pornography that crosses state borders, with a $150,000 fine for the ISP that allowed the transaction to take place.

What is a "jail tariff"? Sounds like it is just another way for the government to collect revenue. Under this bill, the ISPs are tasked with becoming the Internet police. Isn't that convenient. The ISPs take the heat for collecting and get the lawsuits for invasion of privacy from the ACLU.

Who elected this idiot (Lamar Smith R-TX) to Congress? Oh, he has a R after his name, so he must be alright. [/s]

[AFreeBird]

This guy must be a RINO, cause he sure doesn't act like a Republican.

Or at least not how a Republican should act.

[353FMG]

The congressman from Texas is bored stiff and has nothing else to do than to submit new legislation. What else is new?

[relictele]

Technically ignorant people are usually a displeasure bordering on an irritant.

Technically ignorant lawmakers are a frightening lot...someone tells them 'this will sound good...makes you look like you're crusading against child porn.' Technically ignorant REPUBLICAN lawmakers are a serious annoyance.

[Tamar1973]

bill introduced to the US House of Representatives would require ISPs to record all users' surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely.

Introduced by a REPUBLICAN!!!! I'm starting to wonder if Savage is right about Repulicrats and Demicans. They're two sides of the big government coin now.

[taxcontrol]

I will point you in the right direction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCKS
http://www.samair.ru/proxy/socks.htm

Do some reading and then follow this train of thought.

SSL or IPSec encrypted tunnel to a SOCKS server outside of the US. This is as far as the ISP will be able to see. That you contacted a server in some other country, period.

From that SOCKS server, you can surf as you please. Even ISPs on the destination side will only be able to track back to a site outside the US. Since the link between the two is held outside of the US, the logical linking of the two is much more difficult.

Further obscurity can be had via layered SOCKS accounts and/or further encryption tunnels.

[GraniteStateConservative]

9/12/01?

[Gabz]

You've gat that right.

(BTW, I lost your lobster ravioli recipe)

[flada]

I suppose he'll mandate an end to open WIFI, too. One can do whatever one wants anonymously on the internet if they visit a Starbucks or one of a million other places that provide wireless internet.

[RobRoy]

That is it! That is the quote I have been using, but could not remember who said it!

Thanks!

[gunnyg]

FYI:

YOUR E-Mail/E-Mail Subscriptions, Etc.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.network54.com/Forum/135069/message/1169222985/FYI-%20Info%20Re%20Internet%20Subscriptions,%20E-Mail,%20Etc.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/135069/message/1169222985/FYI-%20Info%20Re%20Internet%20Subscriptions,%20E-Mail,%20Etc.

[Strategerist]

Also included is a 20-year "jail tariff" for anyone ordering child pornography that crosses state borders, with a $150,000 fine for the ISP that allowed the transaction to take place.

Ok, so a guy gets a child porn GIF e-mailed to them from Kazakhstan.

I'm curious how the ISP is supposed to not allow this transaction to take place.

[RobRoy]

America is at that awkward stage.
It is too late to work within the system,
but too early to shoot the bastards.

- Claire Wolfe

It is also EXACTLY how I feel. Step one was to stop voting.

[TomGuy]

Even if they wanted to keep all the data, where would they store it?

Yeh. On a daily basis, there are probably billions of emails and IM's. Sorting through them, even with cause, would take an army of people with computers loaded with data mining software. The idea is next to stupid.

Why not use the same theory to xerox every piece of mail that goes through the US Postal system? [Oppppssss, sorry. I just gave some Congresscritter an idea for a new law.]

[Centurion2000]

From your ISP? Why be mysterious? Share the knowledge.

Find an offshore HTTPS proxy and proxy all traffic through there.

[mysterio]

Big brother government is loved by both of the major parties.

[RobRoy]

>>So you just lie down and take it.<<

See post 41.

We are at that "awkward stage".

Think of the sirenity prayer.