Giuliani's Social Views Not Well Known

The Gallup Poll ^ | February 7, 2007

[don-o]

PRINCETON, NJ -- As former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani inches closer to a formal declaration of his candidacy for the 2008 Republican nomination for president, the challenge he faces among Republicans with his support of abortion rights and same-sex civil unions is clear in a recent USA Today/Gallup Poll.

Giuliani is extraordinarily well-liked and respected by the American public. He also ties with or leads Arizona Sen. John McCain as the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination in recent Gallup polls. At the same time, his views on abortion and same-sex civil unions are unknown to most rank and file Republicans. Once informed of Giuliani's positions, a sizable minority of Republicans say they would reconsider their support for the otherwise popular and well-respected Republican luminary.

[Kate of Spice Island]

Feel free to keep on passing judgment.

[Echo Talon]

Is Giuliani the Republican Peyton Manning

Last time I checked Peyton Manning won the Super Bowl and he is the Best Quarterback EVER, period...

[ElPatriota]

...And if Rudy were not running for president, I would leave him alone. But since he is being "sold" as a 'conservative,' then, we must act. sorry.

BEWARE!... Social-conservatives, Christian conservatives or moral-conservatives of ANY KIND..

********************* WE NEED TO UNITE IN OUR PURPOSE!!! ************************

WHO? I don't know, but here we are, in the middle of the Internet revolution, and yet, I feel as if someone, somewhere, is pulling the strings to elect a LEFTY 'Republican,' leaving us conservatives out of the loop and I DON'T LIKE IT!

Who is calling the shots here?... I guess special interest(s) with $$ MONEY $$, I "hear" it already, someone literally telling me, "Go, go little unimportant people, go home...Leave this to the EXPERTS. We the smart people will let you know when to vote.. go on, get lost! - LOL.

I believe Guliani's CONSULTANTS tactic is simply to DIVIDE the Republicans. To attract as many Lefty Republicans (I still don't get used to the label /s) by selling Mr. Guiliani as the CHAMPION OF NATIONAL SECURITY! to us, but I would not be surprised if we get a new batch of "converts" from the 'other side,' to push him over the top. Either I am paranoid but actually BELIEVE this "adoration," for this guy is orquestrated by some special interest out there. Just because, yes, He cleaned up N.Y. and acted with leadership on 9/11... Great as those things are, does not make him the Republican Presidential candidate by default...HARDLY!

And I should say, if he were a social-conservative (as DUNCAN is) THEN, I would be pushing hard for him!... But as it is... THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL I WILL VOTE FOR HIM!... Because if he gets elected, well, social-conservatives LOSE AND the LEFT WINS... That simple. All true social, Christian or Moral conservatives should above all, DENY our vote to the Left... And Rudy is the LEFT on social issues, and those are our issues.

So let's get excited about the challenge... Because I have this funny feeling that this maybe the first time THE PEOPLE will actually defeat the CONSULTANTES! :)

So Let's do it people. Let's show them we are not the dumb a*** they think we are :)

[Kate of Spice Island]

No, I didn't.

Unfortunatley, psychological abuse is not a crime.

What are the candidates views on that?

[Beagle8U]

"Rudy gets my vote, he was for Alito and Roberts and also likes Scalia..."

Don't stop there, he also put Ruth Buzzy Ginsburg in the same group he likes.

[spunkets]

"Feel free to keep on passing judgment."

I never needed permission.

[dmw]

"If anotehr doesn't believe that the baby has life and sees no value, I cannot be the one to stand on the corner with a bible in hand and scream like I lost my mind."

Well, since you don't seem to think we should impose judgment on others, I don't suppose you would be judgmental to those who do "stand on the corner with a Bible in hand and scream like they lost their mind", would you? Actually, your description of people who do go to street corners to try to prevent women from murdering their unborn babies is pretty judgmental, don't you think? You apparently equate these caring people as people who have "lost their minds". Why would you judge them so harshly for wanting to do what they feel in their heart is a good thing? Would Jesus advise these women to get abortions? WWJD?????

[don-o]

Feel free to keep on passing judgment.

Jesus spoke of making righteous judgment and knowing by the fruit if one had a good or bad tree.

The fruit of abortion? Dead human beings. I do not believe He approves.

[Coldwater Creek]

Good post!

[freedomfiter2]

At the same time, his views on abortion and same-sex civil unions are unknown to most rank and file Republicans.


I don't suppose this has anything to do with his poll numbers.

[don-o]

We're drifting away from the subject here (me included.) The subject is that as Rudy's positions become known, he loses support. That per the Gallup poll and also from a post from a Rudy supporter. Everyone I read who looks at Duncan Hunter's positions, pretty much says, "That's what we want."

I have heard reservation about his trade policy. But, that is an issue that needs to be debated again.

[EternalVigilance]

While I personally would never have an abortion for my own moral reasons, I won't impose it on anyone else.

If you simply substitute any other kind of murder of an individual for the words "have an abortion" in your sentence, it will quickly become obvious how silly your position is.

One of civilized society's foremost duties is to protect the weak and defenseless among us.

[Coldwater Creek]

Well Malachi says ( not my words, but Gods) "I hate divorce".

Guess that lets Rudy out.

[freedomfiter2]

You're right. I'm personally opposed to theft and rape but of course it wouldn't be right for me to impose my views on others.

[Afronaut]

However, when Republicans are told in the context of the survey that Giuliani supports same-sex civil unions and holds a pro-choice position on abortion, the net effect on their expressed chances of backing him is negative.

Oh My! I see a downhill slide coming around the bend for St. Rudy. Thank Goodness.

[proudofthesouth]

Even if he comes up against Hitlery and/or Obama?

In that case we will have what happened when Perot ran on a third party ticket.

Don't get me wrong. I don't like Rudy either but I would vote for him if I thought he could defeat the other two.

[freedomfiter2]

My daughter's dad is doing his best to make my life miserable for not murdering my daughter. I know I made the right choice.


I appreciate you choosing to keep your baby, but can't you see that your daughter's dad wouldn't be doing this if there were no choice? many women are pressured to abort against their will.

[don-o]

Forget the /sarc? I see it as a very long shot to deny him the nomination. He has the juice as well as the bread.

I do believe that a Giuliani candidacy could put the Republican Party in the same place as the Democrat Party in 1972 after the McGovern debacle.

[Echo Talon]

Don't stop there, he also put Ruth Buzzy Ginsburg in the same group he likes.

She did make it possible for Roberts and Alito to get confirmed... the "Ginsberg Rule"... ;)

[Beagle8U]

"She did make it possible for Roberts and Alito to get confirmed... the "Ginsberg Rule"... ;)"

What rule is that? That Rudy would appoint another flaming nutball just like her?

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