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Colmes Says Murtha was Right About "Cold Blooded Murder"
Newsbusters ^ | February 9, 2007 | Robin Boyd

Posted on 02/09/2007 8:32:46 PM PST by Chickenhawk Warmonger

Tonight's Hannity and Colmes featured an interview with Col. Oliver North about the media coverage of Iraq and the William Arkin slam against our soldiers. During the course of the interview, Alan Colmes claimed that Rep. John Murtha was right when Murtha accused our Marines of killing innocent civilians in Haditha in cold blood. Col. North immediately reminded Colmes that the Marines had yet to face a trial therefore they were innocent until proven guilty. Colmes replied "there were confessions".

Here's my personal transcript of that portion of the interview... Colmes: Murtha turned out to have correct information. Dick Durbin was talking about treatment gitmo specifically. Col North: Alan, let's deal with these one at a time. Colmes: We don't have a lot of time but let's deal with them. Col. North: There is no proof of what Mr. Murtha said because those trials have not taken place yet. And you believe, as i do. Colmes: There have been convictions. Col. North: Innocent until proven guilty. Colmes: There have been confessions

Colmes was grossly mistaken. There have been no confessions from any of the Marines accused in the Haditha incident. There has yet to be a hearing for these Marines ergo no convictions. Like all American citizens, the Marines are innocent until proven guilty.

Colmes owes these Marines an apology and an on-air correction. John Murtha and the media have done their best to convict these Marines in the court of public opinion. Our soldiers deserve so much better than this.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: colmes; defendourmarines; exmarinemurtha; haditha; iraq; murtha; skeletor
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger; RedRover

Let's say that PVT Snuffy admits to "battlefield murder" when he was merely a cog in an operational platoon or squad. This confession comes after he's been interrogated by himself in a room with a bare light bulb and a couple of warrant officer CID types browbeating him for about 12 hours, 2 weeks running.

Who cares? He's still a private.

All he's really admitting is that he feels bad about having to kill people. He was relying for correct orders on his NCO or OIC.

Just because a subordinate can be made to feel bad after the fact about a combat engagement and terrorized into admitting wrongdoing in order to save his skin does not mean something wrong took place.

We could probably try all of America and the Enola Gay for cold-blooded murder based on that prescription. The real issue would be if Harry Truman acted responsibly and legally. (He did.)

The NCO in this case acted according to the ROE, so the private's feelings of guilt and his effort to cover himself are irrelevant.


61 posted on 02/10/2007 10:28:46 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: RedRover

This is what I wrote to him...

Colmes, why you are on TV is beyond me. You ought to get your facts
straight. You Sir are a MORON!! A weaselly faced gitwort who should
stand tall next to John Murtha and Jane Fonda. Will you Colmes be at
the WALL SPITTING AT OUR SOLDIERS NEXT? I would not doubt it. You
are an ass. How Sean puts up with you each day is amazing. Why don't you
do all of us a favor and retire? I would turn you off but I happen to
like Sean. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. You are vile, annoying
and need to get your facts straight. SHAME ON YOU AND JOHN MURTHA & THE
REST OF YOUR MORONIC DEMORATS!!........

His reply to me, the first one was....

Thank you for showing me what love you have for your fellow Americans.
And you ought to be nicer to Gitworts, too while you're at it.

The second was....

it's me the Gitwort.....
And since you think we should all "come together", at least you're making a good start.

Shaking my head here....I wonder if he is going to write me more. I still say he is a gitwort.


62 posted on 02/10/2007 10:32:29 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: TigersEye

ping


63 posted on 02/10/2007 10:33:46 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: xzins

Right. What made Murtha's remarks so despicable was that they represented a rush to judgement, and totally disregarded the legal rights of the men involved. And it was all done for political purposes.


64 posted on 02/10/2007 10:34:17 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

I am curious. The Democrats are quick to call our troops quilty before any trial and yet we were lectured by Howard Dean to withhold judgement on OBL till guilt or innocence is proven?? You wonder why they are losing traditional democrats such as my self and parents???


65 posted on 02/10/2007 10:39:15 AM PST by sachem longrifle (proud member of the fond Du lac band of the Ojibwa people)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger

That is about the first time I've seen Ollie get visibly angry. Maybe Alan couldn't see it, but I was surprised Ollie didn't swing at him.


66 posted on 02/10/2007 10:41:37 AM PST by Ole Okie (Even Planet Mars is warming. Those Mars Rovers are real polluters!)
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To: xzins
Well said, xzins! And it's obvious why investigators start in on the lowest ranks first. It's not at all extraordinary to feel some guilt after taking a life--especially when investigators are smacking you with pictures of dead children.

In the leaked NCIS report, I appreciated the strength conveyed in the statement of Haditha Marine, Lance Cpl. Jack B. Tatum:

"Knowing what I know now, I feel badly about killing Iraqi civilians who may have been innocent, but I stand fast in my decisions that day, as I reacted to the threats that I perceived at the time," Tatum said. "I did not shoot randomly with the intent to harm innocent Iraqi civilians."

67 posted on 02/10/2007 10:42:08 AM PST by RedRover (Defend Our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

Yeah it's live. You can call in at 646-915-9926.

(sorry I was working on the Gathering of Eagles site and didn't see this!)


68 posted on 02/10/2007 10:44:34 AM PST by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Jarrell)
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To: RedRover

If you click on the Listen Live button, it'll open windows media player.


69 posted on 02/10/2007 10:45:19 AM PST by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Jarrell)
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To: euphoriadev

And if people miss the live broadcast, they can listen later, right?


70 posted on 02/10/2007 10:48:24 AM PST by RedRover (Defend Our Marines.)
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To: Eclectica
Listen, and you'd see that he "only plays at sounding like a moonbat" at H&C.

I've seen him get pretty hateful and nasty on tv. If he's "playing," he's playing for keeps.

71 posted on 02/10/2007 10:49:02 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: RedRover

Yes absolutely. The audio is available about 10 mins after the show airs, and then I'll be replaying the show on my regular Wednesday night slot at 9 pm CST.


72 posted on 02/10/2007 10:53:13 AM PST by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Jarrell)
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To: RedRover

The show is live, but I don't think the button will pop up at http://blogtalkradio.com/hostpage.aspx?show_id=12176 until it goes on air. Here's the call number again. 646-915-9926.

She won't have a live thread here, but if you want to do a live thread here, Red, go for it!


73 posted on 02/10/2007 10:54:06 AM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: RedRover

I'd love to have you call in, especially since we'll be talking a lot about the NCIS stuff, but if you've got a question and don't want to call you can email me at kit.jarrell@gmail.com and i'll ask for you. =)


74 posted on 02/10/2007 10:54:15 AM PST by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Jarrell)
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To: RedRover

Oh, and it works just like a radio on the computer, comes thru the speakers.


75 posted on 02/10/2007 10:55:16 AM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: euphoriadev
Have you seen the latest that Lance Cpl. Robert B. Pennington will charge the NCIS with misconduct at his trial?

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/07/02/10/100loc_a1marine001.cfm

76 posted on 02/10/2007 10:57:49 AM PST by RedRover (Defend Our Marines.)
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To: pandoraou812

Showing my ignorance, here. What's a gitwort? Looked it up online but couldn't find it. My fave is brimborion - but I can't find a definition of that word online, either. Here's a few good adjectives: obnoxious, egregious, insufferable, and stinky. And a few nouns: tomfool, nimrod, ignoramus, and schmuck. Happy emailing!


77 posted on 02/10/2007 10:58:06 AM PST by Girlene
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To: euphoriadev; RedRover

Ya Red, call in!


78 posted on 02/10/2007 10:58:12 AM PST by lilycicero (SSgt Frank Wuterich did his job well.)
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To: the mo; Tuscaloosa Goldfinch; fishergirl; TNdandelion; slipper; Eagles6; jazusamo; smoothsailing; ..
PING!

See euphoriadev's posts above. Call or email her radio show, broadcasting NOW. Her guest will be Darryl Sharratt, father of Haditha Marine Justin Sharratt.

Sorry for this belated ping. If you miss the broadcast, you can catch it later on your computer.

79 posted on 02/10/2007 11:02:14 AM PST by RedRover (Defend Our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

who's area code 913???


80 posted on 02/10/2007 11:02:56 AM PST by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Jarrell)
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